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Old 04-01-2021, 05:42 PM   #26
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I just remember 2011, when we ended up with a roster that included Abdul Ahmed, Carl Blair, Barry Honore, and Nick Thompson. That last Capel roster was not good. Cade Davis deserved better his senior season.

Lon's first roster wasn't much better. It took a couple of years to recruit the foundation of the eventual Final 4 team. Next season might be rough, and the next few years might be lean if the transfer portal doesn't produce.
Oof...that was a horrible roster. Maybe one of the worst Big 12 rosters of all time but some people still claim Capel can recruit.
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Old 04-01-2021, 05:59 PM   #27
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Oof...that was a horriblen roster. Maybe one of the worst Big 12 rosters of all time but some people still claim Capel can recruit.
And don’t forget CJ Washington, Kyle Hardrick, and Calvin Newell. And it bears repeating Nick Thompson was recruited by Capel and played minutes. Nick Thompson.

Only 4-5 players worth anything on that roster and then a HUGE drop off to OCU type talent.
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Old 04-01-2021, 06:22 PM   #28
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Oof...that was a horrible roster. Maybe one of the worst Big 12 rosters of all time but some people still claim Capel can recruit.
It was a pretty bad roster, but fairly comparable to what Capel inherited.
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Old 04-01-2021, 07:19 PM   #29
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He’s from Las Vegas.
What an obvious oversight. Smh....lol
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Old 04-02-2021, 02:29 AM   #30
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I may have missed it mentioned, but Garang has entered the Portal
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Old 04-02-2021, 06:38 AM   #31
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It was a pretty bad roster, but fairly comparable to what Capel inherited.
I’m glad you said it. Kelvin left the cupboard bare, too.
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Old 04-02-2021, 07:05 AM   #32
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Meh easy come easy go so far IMO
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Old 04-02-2021, 07:59 AM   #33
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I’m glad you said it. Kelvin left the cupboard bare, too.
Kelvin had a monster class coming in that bailed when he left for Indiana. I'm not sure I'd qualify that as leaving the cupboard bare.
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Old 04-02-2021, 08:24 AM   #34
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I’m glad you said it. Kelvin left the cupboard bare, too.
Kelvin's leaving emptied the cupboard. Reynolds and James would've kept the ship a-sail.
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Old 04-02-2021, 08:30 AM   #35
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Kelvin had a monster class coming in that bailed when he left for Indiana. I'm not sure I'd qualify that as leaving the cupboard bare.
I don't mean to imply Sampson got out while he could. We were on the verge of one of our finest runs as a program with James and Reynolds had Sampson stayed (and not ran them off). I just mean that Capel didn't have much to work with.

Don't get me thinking about Blake as a sophomore alongside James and Reynolds as juniors. Granted, we might not have had Willie. What could have been.
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I don't mean to imply Sampson got out while he could. We were on the verge of one of our finest runs as a program with James and Reynolds had Sampson stayed (and not ran them off). I just mean that Capel didn't have much to work with.

Don't get me thinking about Blake as a sophomore alongside James and Reynolds as juniors. Granted, we might not have had Willie. What could have been.
Probably wouldn’t have had Blake, either.
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Probably wouldn’t have had Blake, either.
Very true.
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Old 04-02-2021, 10:00 AM   #38
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Not sure if posted anywhere else, but Lon was on with Al Eschbach a couple of days ago.

https://audioboom.com/posts/7835878-...021-lon-kruger

Few tidbits:
- From the last conversation he had with the seniors, he expects them to all go pro.
- Harmon hasn't signed with an agent and is testing waters. Unlikely he returns, but there is still a chance
- When asked about the OU job, he said it's an attractive opening, great people to work with, great tradition, great practice and weight facilities. However, specifically mentions the arena needs to be addressed and was bummed out when the deal with the city of Norman fell through.
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Old 04-02-2021, 10:06 AM   #39
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Kelvin had a monster class coming in that bailed when he left for Indiana. I'm not sure I'd qualify that as leaving the cupboard bare.
It absolutely is leaving it bare, because they had barely any talent in the program when capel took over. It doesn’t matter who would have come if kelvin had stayed because that didn’t happen.
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It absolutely is leaving it bare, because they had barely any talent in the program when capel took over. It doesn’t matter who would have come if kelvin had stayed because that didn’t happen.
We have had this discussion before (though it's been some time). My recollection is that it was generally agreed (though it was not unanimous) that Capel had much more to work with when he arrived than did Kruger.

Keith Clark, Tony Crocker, David Goldbold, Taylor Griffin, Austin Johnson, Longar Longar, Michael Neal -- for my money, that's far from an empty cupboard. And I'm one who holds it against Capel (to a certain degree, anyway) that he wasn't able to hang on to James and Reynolds, just as I'll hold it somewhat against our next coach if he's unable to keep Cortes and Noland.
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Old 04-02-2021, 11:36 AM   #41
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We have had this discussion before (though it's been some time). My recollection is that it was generally agreed (though it was not unanimous) that Capel had much more to work with when he arrived than did Kruger.

Keith Clark, Tony Crocker, David Goldbold, Taylor Griffin, Austin Johnson, Longar Longar, Michael Neal -- for my money, that's far from an empty cupboard. And I'm one who holds it against Capel (to a certain degree, anyway) that he wasn't able to hang on to James and Reynolds, just as I'll hold it somewhat against our next coach if he's unable to keep Cortes and Noland.
Lon inherited guys like Osby, Clark, Pledger, and Fitzgerald. Osby is the best player of the bunch. Listing Keith Clark as an asset is laughable.
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I thought he might stick around. He could probably break A LOT of records if he played another year at OU.
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Old 04-02-2021, 02:46 PM   #44
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happy for brady. hope he lands at a school where he is guaranteed to only play the four. looking forward to watching and rooting for him next year.
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Old 04-02-2021, 02:51 PM   #45
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So, Brady wants to play college ball next year, just not for OU. Could the new coach convince him to come back? Or is he for sure, gone?
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Old 04-02-2021, 02:52 PM   #46
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Not exactly a shocker. I'm sure he wants to play in the NCAA tournament as a senior and he probably won't do that at OU.
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Not exactly a shocker. I'm sure he wants to play in the NCAA tournament as a senior and he probably won't do that at OU.
Lol. You don’t even know the roster yet!!!
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Lol. You don’t even know the roster yet!!!
Let's trade Manek for Krutwig and their PG.
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Let's trade Manek for Krutwig and their PG.
Yep, that is what I have been saying/posting. Williamson is the PG.

We could use the 'stache and a PG. I think we have the spots. LOL.

Seriously, not many seniors have committed to play a 5th year under the exemption, but it is doubtful those two guys have good-paying pro basketball careers ahead of them so maybe Moser can talk them into something. The problem is both guys are from the Chicago area, IIRC. They have a freshman guard on their roster from Colleyville, so maybe he is an option.
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Let's trade Manek for Krutwig and their PG.
Throw in the Groves brothers and I think OU has a team.
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