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Old 05-31-2021, 04:08 PM   #26
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Old 05-31-2021, 09:28 PM   #27
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Holy crap.... they actually compared themselves with Ku/uk/duke/unc....and chances of winning NC’s for a few years...
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Old 06-01-2021, 06:44 AM   #28
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I stand corrected. I’m sure David Patrick played a role in Johnson’s decision. But, his tweet spells it out loud and clear: “Coming home. Boomer Sooner!”

Welcome home, young man!
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Old 06-01-2021, 07:13 AM   #29
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[quote=AdaSooner;680349]I like what I see!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udsAGnzXSuM


i see a big time wing athlete that can also serve as a secondary ball handler and playmaker for this team ..

pretty great pick up ..
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Old 06-01-2021, 08:02 AM   #30
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I read the Hog version of events from that link. Not sure what to believe, but hopefully he can report next week with everybody else. With 9 new guys, getting chemistry the entire summer will be optimal..
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Old 06-01-2021, 08:15 AM   #31
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Looks great... what is funny is that I advocated recruiting him when he was at Coffeyville CC in Kansas. Better late than never.
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Old 06-01-2021, 09:05 AM   #32
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I would have preferred more of a true guard. Somebody smaller that is a better shooter. Feels like we have that wing/SF/PF spot covered. Maybe we were out on the other guys we were chasing (specifically the kid out of UCF), but I saw that as a bigger need than what this guy offers. 4.5 turnovers per game and 31% from deep ain't great. But he's athletic and a solid enough backup playmaker, and it's only for a year, so we'll see.

There will definitely be some roster competition this year. This has to be one of the more experienced, deepest rosters we've had in some time, when you look at some of the experience/talent we're going to be bringing off the bench. Hopefully they can gel and make a little noise this season.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:00 AM   #33
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I would have preferred more of a true guard. Somebody smaller that is a better shooter. Feels like we have that wing/SF/PF spot covered. Maybe we were out on the other guys we were chasing (specifically the kid out of UCF), but I saw that as a bigger need than what this guy offers. 4.5 turnovers per game and 31% from deep ain't great. But he's athletic and a solid enough backup playmaker, and it's only for a year, so we'll see.

There will definitely be some roster competition this year. This has to be one of the more experienced, deepest rosters we've had in some time, when you look at some of the experience/talent we're going to be bringing off the bench. Hopefully they can gel and make a little noise this season.
he is a true guard ... i agree i wish he was a better shooter ..
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:15 AM   #34
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Looks great... what is funny is that I advocated recruiting him when he was at Coffeyville CC in Kansas. Better late than never.
He wasn’t ready for the Big 12 stage at that time. He ended up at Eastern Illinois....Clearly needed to work on his game and then have an opportunity like this one where he doesn’t have to be the guy but can add some scoring here and there most likely off the bench and play solid defense. As others have mentioned, his turnovers seem to be a little alarming but in a system like he’ll be in with Moser maybe they aren’t worried about that at all.

But however many years ago coming out of CCC he wasn’t ready for OU/Big 12 play IMO.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:30 AM   #35
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he is a true guard ... i agree i wish he was a better shooter ..
It's semantics, but he is more of a wing.

Let me put it another way.....I was hoping for more of a traditional shooting guard type.
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It's semantics, but he is more of a wing.

Let me put it another way.....I was hoping for more of a traditional shooting guard type.
Yeah I agree. Seemed odd that the last few names mentioned were a PG and then this guy. Both spots that seemed to have more bodies than the SG position on paper. We’ll see how it works out but hopefully they aren’t wishing they would have held out for a guy that hit the 3 ball a little better. Maybe his 3 % was down due to having to force shots being the guy at Eastern Illinois? Maybe having other scoring options and a post player like Groves will give him more open looks and help raise his %? Maybe that’s just wishful thinking
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I like what I see!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udsAGnzXSuM


i see a big time wing athlete that can also serve as a secondary ball handler and playmaker for this team ..

pretty great pick up ..
I’m not sure I’m willing to go with secondary ball handler just yet. He’s a playmaker for sure, but he had 4.5 turnovers per game against OVC defenses. He can’t be a key ball handler for us, or we’re going to struggle.
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Old 06-01-2021, 06:43 PM   #38
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I just saw a quick highlight video/ couldn’t tell much ...
interesting to hear the OUhoops boards evals?
What player is a good comparison for him?
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I just saw a quick highlight video/ couldn’t tell much ...
interesting to hear the OUhoops boards evals?
What player is a good comparison for him?
I see him as a taller and longer Harkless.
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I see him as a taller and longer Harkless.
Wishful thinking.
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Wishful thinking.
LOL. Ok...Johnson comes in with more of a resume, so I'll stick with my opinion.
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LOL. Ok...Johnson comes in with more of a resume, so I'll stick with my opinion.
His resume is better than Harkless last year? Feel free to your opinion, but people overhype newcomers way too much.
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His resume is better than Harkless last year? Feel free to your opinion, but people overhype newcomers way too much.
No, I'm saying he has done more prior to OU than Harkless had.

I did not know of a single human other than OU's coaching staff and Harkless who thought he could do what he did last year.
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No, I'm saying he has done more prior to OU than Harkless had.

I did not know of a single human other than OU's coaching staff and Harkless who thought he could do what he did last year.
So to say he’s a longer, taller Harkless is a stretch. If he is then he’ll go 1st round.

Do you expect he’ll surprise like Harkless? Harkless played on a much better team in a much better conference.

I think Johnson will be 6-9th best player.
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So to say he’s a longer, taller Harkless is a stretch. If he is then he’ll go 1st round.

Do you expect he’ll surprise like Harkless? Harkless played on a much better team in a much better conference.

I think Johnson will be 6-9th best player.
First round? Huh? Harkless is a good college player. A 6'5 version of him isn't CLOSE to a first-rounder without MUCH improved shooting and ball handling.
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I'm hoping for 8-10 minutes of production from Marvin per game, provided he has his head screwed on straight.....which is far from a certainty.
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First round? Huh? Harkless is a good college player. A 6'5 version of him isn't CLOSE to a first-rounder without MUCH improved shooting and ball handling.
You said taller & more athletic. Pay attention to the NBA, hard workers who play D & extra effort plays are all over the court. He doesn’t need to improve his handling, most teams have 2 guys that do 90% of the dribbling. Hit open 3s, play great defense, 6’5 & athletic gets you on the court a lot.

I shouldn’t have said 1st round, I should’ve said he’d play in the NBA.

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You said taller & more athletic. Pay attention to the NBA, hard workers who play D & extra effort plays are all over the court. He doesn’t need to improve his handling, most teams have 2 guys that do 90% of the dribbling. Hit open 3s, play great defense, 6’5 & athletic gets you on the court a lot.

I shouldn’t have said 1st round, I should’ve said he’d play in the NBA.
I'm not saying I expect Johnson to produce like Harkless did, though I don't think that'd be crazy if he did.

I don't think either are close to NBA players without significant improvement offensively.

Harkless is a good defender, but he didn't do any magic against Cunningham or Suggs or any top scorers, which he'd have to being so limited offensively.
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In SEC message board universe lol.
SEC delusion knows no bounds.
They are at best a bunch of Tommie’s ..
Which brother tandem lead Major League Baseball in career home runs
The Aaron Brothers with 768
Hank 755
Tommie 13

SEC fans from outside Bama are Tommie’s!!
“Tell is all about that HR record Tommie”!
“Tell us about those National Titles (All teams non Bama)?”

Oh and after watching some film there’s some Boo to his game -has some do it all attributes to his game. I can see shades of some Damon Patterson/Jason Dietrich(sp) in his game the dude lead his squad in points, asst, and rebounds so he’s a straight up athlete. He’s not a great shooter by any means but is athletic and crafty enough to be a solid scorer. He’ll help us this year.

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