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11-06-2023, 10:17 PM
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Season Plus / Minus post USC
After USC
Name...................+/-.........MIN
Javian McCollum - 118 ------173:34
Rivaldo Soares ---- 95 ------129:52
Le'tre Darthard --- 93 -------138:32
Otega Oweh ------- 89 ------145:38
Milos Uzan -------- 81 -------173:40
Sam Godwin ------ 67 -------97:02
John Hugley ------- 65 ------115:11
Luke Northweather 55 -------47:08
Jalon Moore ------- 40 ------103:27
Kaden Cooper ----- 16 -------22:39
Maks Klanjscek ---- 10 -------25:51
Yaya Keita ---------- 2 --------11:57
Jake Moser --------- 2 --------08:45
Reid Lovelace ------ -4 -------06:45
*current results are now in the OP the first 2 games of the season are in the second post
Last edited by BoulderSooner; 11-25-2023 at 01:01 PM.
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11-13-2023, 01:22 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Miss Valley
After CMU
Name...................+/-.........MIN
Rivaldo Soares ---- 22 -------24:05
Le'tre Darthard --- 18 -------23:15
Milos Uzan -------- 18 -------30:31
Javian McCollum -- 17 -------29:12
Otega Oweh ------- 11 -------20:04
Luke Northweather 13 -------12:31
John Hugley --------11 ------17:36
Kaden Cooper ------ 8 -------6:46
Jalon Moore -------- 7 -------16:56
Sam Godwin ------- 7 --------13:04
Yaya Keita ---------- 6 --------2:00
Maks Klanjscek ---- 6 ---------2:00
Jake Moser --------- 6 --------2:00
After Miss Valley State
Name...................+/-.........MIN
Javian McCollum -- 51 -------52:12
Otega Oweh ------- 48 -------43:21
Milos Uzan -------- 44 -------57:20
Rivaldo Soares ---- 42 -------45:08
Le'tre Darthard --- 39 -------49:26
John Hugley --------39 ------34:47
Luke Northweather 33 -------34:13
Sam Godwin ------- 20 ------28:09
Kaden Cooper ------ 8 -------6:46
Maks Klanjscek ---- 8 --------15:44
Jalon Moore -------- 7 -------16:56
Jake Moser --------- 5 --------5:26
Yaya Keita ---------- 2 --------7:06
Reid Lovelace ------ -1 -------3:26
Last edited by BoulderSooner; 11-17-2023 at 04:48 PM.
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11-13-2023, 06:18 PM
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Elite Eight
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Miss Valley State
For us non stat geeks… what does this mean? I get it’s something per min played.. guessing higher # the better?
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11-14-2023, 06:10 AM
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Sweet 16
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Miss Valley State
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Originally Posted by Soonerinkc
For us non stat geeks… what does this mean? I get it’s something per min played.. guessing higher # the better?
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It's how many points OU won/lost by while this person was on the floor.
If I play 5 minutes, and the other team outscores us by 7, I'll have a -7 for that game.
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11-14-2023, 07:35 AM
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National Champion
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Miss Valley State
And if I were to play a full 40-minutes with a team of NBA All-Stars against a high school team, I would end up a +50, 60, 70 or more, but that stat would have absolutely nothing--nada, zip--to do with my actual skills and contributions to the win.
That's an extreme--even ridiculous--example, of course, but it demonstrates how this particular stat matters only (if at all) over a prolonged period of time. Some NBA end-of-the-bench scrub could get significant playing time due to injuries in a game in which a teammate goes off from deep, scoring 60 points, and the scrub's +/- would be very impressive without him having made a significant contribution to the win at all.
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11-14-2023, 08:31 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Miss Valley State
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Originally Posted by skyvue
it demonstrates how this particular stat matters only (if at all) over a prolonged period of time.
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this is correct .. it "can" give you an idea in a one game sample, often confirming good or bad play. but really it is useful over much longer periods ..
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11-14-2023, 09:03 AM
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Starter
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Miss Valley State
It is nice to look at against good teams over multiple games. But against inferior teams, the numbers can get inflated for starters who really don't contribute. Or the opposite can happen. Look at Jalon Moore. He missed one game and his numbers will probably never catch up with 6-7 of the other players. Cooper maybe in the same situation.
Last year the numbers helped CJ Nolan tremendously. By end of the year, he wasn't even getting minutes.
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11-17-2023, 04:48 PM
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Owner/Operator
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post texas st
After Texas State
Name...................+/-.........MIN
Javian McCollum -- 77 -------77:47
Otega Oweh ------- 76 -------63:46
Rivaldo Soares ---- 69 -------66:37
Milos Uzan -------- 63 -------81:30
Le'tre Darthard --- 62 -------71:30
John Hugley ------- 54 ------52:08
Luke Northweather 51 -------43:51
Sam Godwin ------- 38 ------43:14
Jalon Moore ------- 21 -------27:32
Kaden Cooper ------ 17 ------20:43
Maks Klanjscek ---- 11 -------23:55
Yaya Keita ---------- 2 -------11:57
Jake Moser --------- 2 -------08:45
Reid Lovelace ------ -4 -------6:45
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11-20-2023, 02:18 PM
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Owner/Operator
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post UTRGV
After UTRGV
Name...................+/-.........MIN
Javian McCollum -- 96 ------102:40
Le'tre Darthard --- 91 ------103:50
Rivaldo Soares ---- 89 -------92:32
Otega Oweh ------- 85 -------84:37
Milos Uzan -------- 74 ------110:33
Sam Godwin ------ 62 -------63:21
John Hugley ------- 54 ------72:01
Luke Northweather 51 -------43:51
Jalon Moore ------- 31 -------50:38
Kaden Cooper ----- 16 -------22:39
Maks Klanjscek ---- 10 ------25:51
Yaya Keita ---------- 2 -------11:57
Jake Moser --------- 2 -------08:45
Reid Lovelace ------ -4 ------06:45
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11-25-2023, 12:56 PM
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Owner/Operator
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post IOWA
After IOWA
Name...................+/-.........MIN
Javian McCollum - 109 ------137:07
Rivaldo Soares ---- 99 ------109:08
Le'tre Darthard --- 98 ------122:50
Otega Oweh ------- 94 ------116:10
Milos Uzan -------- 78 ------142:50
Sam Godwin ------ 66 -------83:06
John Hugley ------- 62 ------89:24
Luke Northweather 55 -------47:08
Jalon Moore ------- 32 -------76:20
Kaden Cooper ----- 16 -------22:39
Maks Klanjscek ---- 10 ------25:51
Yaya Keita ---------- 2 -------11:57
Jake Moser --------- 2 -------08:45
Reid Lovelace ------ -4 ------06:45
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11-25-2023, 01:01 PM
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Owner/Operator
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post IOWA
After USC
Name...................+/-.........MIN
Javian McCollum - 118 ------173:34
Rivaldo Soares ---- 95 ------129:52
Le'tre Darthard --- 93 -------138:32
Otega Oweh ------- 89 ------145:38
Milos Uzan -------- 81 -------173:40
Sam Godwin ------ 67 -------97:02
John Hugley ------- 65 ------115:11
Luke Northweather 55 -------47:08
Jalon Moore ------- 40 ------103:27
Kaden Cooper ----- 16 -------22:39
Maks Klanjscek ---- 10 -------25:51
Yaya Keita ---------- 2 --------11:57
Jake Moser --------- 2 --------08:45
Reid Lovelace ------ -4 -------06:45
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11-25-2023, 05:17 PM
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Elite Eight
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Miss Valley State
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnkranger
It's how many points OU won/lost by while this person was on the floor.
If I play 5 minutes, and the other team outscores us by 7, I'll have a -7 for that game.
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Gracias
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11-25-2023, 05:18 PM
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Elite Eight
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post USC
Damn… that Reid kid sucks… lol… I kid.
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