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Old 03-12-2019, 05:45 PM   #51
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The big advantage BB has on other sports is that with only 5 on the court at a time, one or two talented players along with your role players and GOOD coaching, and GOOD on court leadership you can go from not very good to competitive in one year. But finding a talented center and maybe a talented big forward will be a must.
And someone is out there somewhere, if you can find her and recruit her.

I agree. There's got to be a couple good players left out there that don't have a place yet. I wonder whatever happened to Boothe from Texas? She should be heading into her Junior season and I believe she went to a junior college last year. Is she signed with anyone? Players like that would be a great 'get' for us. I'm sure she's already been signed...knowing SC, she will sign an unknown high school player that is about six-foot-two and say she is a program changer... And turns out to be yet another Simpson.
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Old 03-12-2019, 05:51 PM   #52
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"From David Little to Peyton Little to Chicken Little?

If OU had had Maddie Manning and Vivi back for another year, we would probably have been about 18-12 or better. We had zero experience, but no worse talent than we had in 2018, except that we had no post who was ready for even a mediocre performance."

Syb,
if your aunt had balls, he'd be your uncle.
You have obviously not absorbed the totality of OU going 8-22 with no season long
injuries to any players.
Excuses are over. It's time to get real and make significant changes in
Recruiting
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Will Sherri have the will to make the changes. Usually the legendary coach does not.
The pattern is all too familiar.
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:08 PM   #53
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I would prefer to she Sherri hire talented assistants from another top program like UConn, Notre Dame, Stanford, Maryland, Louisville, etc. I think assistants with no association with OU brings a totally different perspective and more new ideas than one that knows the Sherri Coale way of doing things. Much easier for a former Sooner to become another yes person like Jan, Pam, Chad and Colton.
I've just come to the conclusion that it is what it is until SC decides to leave...and takes her son with her. No one in their right (or left) mind from such successful teams is going to leave for Norman, unless they have a personal tie to the area (i.e. one of the OKC Thunder players has a wife that wants to coach...LOL). She'll hire someone, I suppose, but you best believe it will not be much different than having Thrailkill and DeCosta on staff. Where else were they going to go when they landed at OU? DeCosta was a disaster at San Jose St. and Thrailkill at a high school.

Can you imagine CDailey from UCONN (or even DJackson Durrett) coming to work for SC? Durrett has been with some great coaches and I can't see her wanting to settle for mediocrity. She already knows. First of all, that would never happen, but for the sake of a good laugh and argument, let's go with it. They would hear some crazy game time offensive plan from CCoale and throw their clipboard in the stand! At least feel like it! Successful programs as you've mentioned are like night and day to OU. I know of players recruited by UCONN that heard stories about if his assistants did not do their jobs, he didn't allow them to fly on the team flight. They had to get their own ticket back home! And I believe it!

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Old 03-12-2019, 06:11 PM   #54
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Exactly. Exactly! EXACTLY! -- Atlanta!

Tell me one top-named transfer who would come to OU now -- or assistant coach who would come here knowing that there is a better than 50-50 chance they are looking at getting fired in a coaching change next season.

Working with Sherri may not be the big draw some think it is, especially if it gets around you don't get to say anything other than "Yes, ma'am."
I'll second that!
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:24 PM   #55
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---Sherri once mentioned on the Rudi's show that Colton wasn't sure that he wanted to go into coaching.

---Abi Olajuwon is at TCU.

---I don't think there is a big available for the 2019-2020 season that would be of interest.

---Were there not some rumors that Chad was looking elsewhere a couple of months ago?

---Dionnah may see Mississippi State as not the ideal location from which too build. A lot of their success is due to one key player. What happens next year? Is Daphane White as good as some say?
I thought that rumor about Thrailkill was last spring or summer, but I could be wrong.

Speaking of former players who are coaching, Britney Brown is at TCU with Abi.
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:31 PM   #56
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It was last year. I posted it.


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Old 03-12-2019, 06:40 PM   #57
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I just don't think any of the former OU players would want to come back and serve as an assistant under SC, with or without CC providing the games offensive plan for them. There are a number of them working as assistants, but I guess if they wanted to coach at OU they would have been there by now. I doubt if CParis would ever consider it. Per discussions at CA State Championship Games...she's still playing overseas (averaging a double double). She was in Turkey and last played in China (two of the toughest leagues), just won a WNBA championship and has another year on a contract with Seattle. AParis is in the Czech Republic and retiring after this season...just accepted a job with Nike. She ain't going! SDales seems happy in the broadcast field. Sidebar: Did anyone else see Dales consoling KMulkey after the championship game after getting a little emotional? Doubt if she's coming to the rescue. Oh well.

EDIT: And lest we forget..SHansmeyer left her!
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:46 PM   #58
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Syb I don't know how much you have watched Mississippi State, but I have watched them a lot over the last three years.

Schaefer just reloads. He lost 3 starters from last year's team, including Vivians his best player. So he brings in transfers Howard and Danbury. Howard is the second highes scorer, Danbury third. I think in spite of McCowan's heighth that Howard is the best player on the team.

He will be good for a long time.
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Syb I don't know how much you have watched Mississippi State, but I have watched them a lot over the last three years.

Schaefer just reloads. He lost 3 starters from last year's team, including Vivians his best player. So he brings in transfers Howard and Danbury. Howard is the second highes scorer, Danbury third. I think in spite of McCowan's heighth that Howard is the best player on the team.

He will be good for a long time.
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Syb I don't know how much you have watched Mississippi State, but I have watched them a lot over the last three years.

Schaefer just reloads. He lost 3 starters from last year's team, including Vivians his best player. So he brings in transfers Howard and Danbury. Howard is the second highes scorer, Danbury third. I think in spite of McCowan's heighth that Howard is the best player on the team.

He will be good for a long time.
I only saw them twice this year. I saw them maybe five times last year. They benefited greatly from a 6-7 post who seemed to be the difference maker, the player who made them a top three as opposed to a top 25 team.
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Old 03-12-2019, 07:17 PM   #61
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Here is a person who young still playing D-ROB. Sherri needs to find someone who can recruit.
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Old 03-12-2019, 07:53 PM   #62
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Why didn't Mr. Basketball (Sony Boy) get the ax?
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Old 03-12-2019, 08:51 PM   #63
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Because if they made her fire him, she would have done it and then retired and that likely would have broken up the love affair between her and OU for good.

And junior still may quit. She’s just giving him time to find another job.


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Is anybody concerned that she may hire Morgan Hook? I am.
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Old 03-13-2019, 01:21 AM   #65
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No, because Joe C would nix that now, I guarantee.


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How can you be certain he allowed Colton, her least qualified assistant to hired and to stay instead of going with Pam and Chad. But I doubt that Sherri wants to open that can of worms after the initial reaction to the Colton hiring.
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That day has passed and times have changed. Sherri is no longer the one deciding who coaches and who doesn’t, reportedly.

I doubt we see Colton around after next season. Hell, after next season Sherri May hang it up - voluntarily or involuntarily.


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That day has passed and times have changed. Sherri is no longer the one deciding who coaches and who doesn’t, reportedly.

I doubt we see Colton around after next season. Hell, after next season Sherri May hang it up - voluntarily or involuntarily.


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That could very well happen, Sherri gone, Colton gone, I sure will miss sybarite
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I only saw them twice this year. I saw them maybe five times last year. They benefited greatly from a 6-7 post who seemed to be the difference maker, the player who made them a top three as opposed to a top 25 team.

I could not disagree any further. Vivians was their best player. They had three strong senior guards that had a lot to do with their success. Without good guards, no way she gets the ball down low as much as she did! McCowan obviously helped but she was not solely, or even mostly responsible.

Sometimes things this guy's says ...

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He might go for it if she fired Colton and hired Morgan. She is after all far more qualified than Colton to be an assistant. It is funny listening to Sherri say that Colton knows the program because he was around every step of the way while she built it. What a joke? Now, he is director of recruiting. One thing for certain, Sherri is going to have a tough time getting assistant coaches who consider joining her staff a risk to their career. They come in and she gets fired then they have to find a new job. I would not take the job without a contract for multiple years from OU.

My money is that she will make Jan Ross an assistant coach again for one of the two slots. She will then hire a newby with little experience.
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Mississippi State has averaged better than 29 wins per season for the last 6 seasons going 178-38. During that period the allowed an average of only 58.1 p/g and won by an average of 18 p/g. One player did not make all that happen.
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I could not disagree any further. Vivians was their best player. They had three strong senior guards that had a lot to do with their success. Without good guards, no way she gets the ball down low as much as she did! McCowan obviously helped but she was not solely, or even mostly responsible.

Sometimes things this guy's says ...
Really? Like the reason that Mississippi State got into the finals last year were those 25 points and four rebounds. Or, just perhaps, it was the 21 points and twenty-five rebounds along with three blocked shots that allowed them to control the interior.

Of course, McGowan is back, and they appear to be headed back there again.. It couldn't be that she is the leading scorer and rebounder (13.5 boards per game to go with about 75 blocks) that allows them to dominate the interior. It's nice if a forward can shoot 45-50% from the field (she did average one more point per game last year than did McGowan), but when you have a post who shoots 65% from the field, you just don't lose that many scoring opportunities.

They only beat UConn to get into the finals because McGowan came in to shoot 5 of 9 from the field and grab 8 rebounds to lead the team, as a reserve,, while Vivians was 6 of 18, only 3 of 11 from three. Very simply, two years in a row, they needed McGowan to get them past the first game in the Final Four.

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Mississippi State has averaged better than 29 wins per season for the last 6 seasons going 178-38. One player did not make that happen.
One player is the difference that makes them a title caliber team. A champion usually has one or two players that do something others don't do. UConn had Stewart who seemed to rise to the occasion. South Carolina beat Mississippi State because they had A'Ja Wilson who almost matched McGowan on the boards and shot 9 of 15 for 23 points. SC also had a couple of posts who could rotate in, take some fouls each, and play defense on Terra. Mississippi State had nobody who rose up. Vivians was only 4 of 16 from the field and one of five from three. Nobody really had a good day. Terra got her ten boards, but SC had several to combat her inside.
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He might go for it if she fired Colton and hired Morgan. She is after all far more qualified than Colton to be an assistant. It is funny listening to Sherri say that Colton knows the program because he was around every step of the way while she built it. What a joke? Now, he is director of recruiting. One thing for certain, Sherri is going to have a tough time getting assistant coaches who consider joining her staff a risk to their career. They come in and she gets fired then they have to find a new job. I would not take the job without a contract for multiple years from OU.

My money is that she will make Jan Ross an assistant coach again for one of the two slots. She will then hire a newby with little experience.




Interesting thought. But I hope you are wrong. However your logic is not unlike how I think Sherri thinks. I shudder at the thought of your statement. Ugh!!
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I seem to remember William having a game winning shot against UCONN the year before last to get them to the finals, after having had a monster game that whole game. I think a great point guard is essential to making sure the Bigs get the looks they need on offense. I don't think that M.State was a one-person-team, as i'm sure there were games McCowan had that weren't spectacular and other players stepped up to get them to where they ended up. The whole team was just special. I'm not saying McCowan isn't a special player individually, but i don't agree she's the only reason they got to where they were the past two seasons.

I get so frustrated when people are rude, condescending jerks when they respond to people with disagreements. This is yet another illustration why not very many people like them on this board and why they have so many arguments.

I hope some day OU can get to the level M.State is at right now again.
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