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Old Yesterday, 02:19 PM   #3826
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Just because there's more conservatives here and in Oklahoma doesn't mean they're always right.

The lynch mob can be wrong......

And I don't like being called one of the "boys"....but no one was called out.
My recent comments had nothing to do with being right/wrong, nor did they have anything to do with party lines. I simply said that it is possible to disagree with somebody without being rude. I don't feel that comment should be categorized as either "republican" or "democrat." I believe that to be basic knowledge accepted by all parties, even if not always implemented appropriately.
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Old Yesterday, 03:29 PM   #3827
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What political comments do you speak of? I don't think I've made any such posts in this thread.
Agreed. "Getting back to work", in and of itself, is not a political comment. cool just wants to argue and fuss.
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Old Yesterday, 06:13 PM   #3828
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and it's another day of exposing at the ok corral. You are spot on in pointing out there was nothing political involved. In all seriousness of the 100k who passed on is a percentage would have met the same fate if they contracted the flu. Also, many of these people had burdensome health issues and they were not long for this world as some had serious cardiovascular problems and such and time was not on their side.
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Old Yesterday, 06:49 PM   #3829
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I haven't posted in this thread for awhile, mostly because I was disgusted with the decision to basically destroy the small business community. I would have been fine with shutting down the country for a few WEEKS had they not allowed companies like Walmart, Target and Home Depot to turn every day into Black Friday while allowing the virus to spread more rapidly.

At this point, most of us have learned enough to be cautious without further destroying what is left of the economy.
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Old Yesterday, 08:27 PM   #3830
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I haven't posted in this thread for awhile, mostly because I was disgusted with the decision to basically destroy the small business community. I would have been fine with shutting down the country for a few WEEKS had they not allowed companies like Walmart, Target and Home Depot to turn every day into Black Friday while allowing the virus to spread more rapidly.

At this point, most of us have learned enough to be cautious without further destroying what is left of the economy.
Exactly....I'm with ya brother 100%.

Outside of the sensationalizing crap that we are constantly deluged with by the MM, by and large, a growing segment of people understand this disease for what it is.... a contagious virus that primarily preys on the elderly and those with specific underlying conditions. In hindsight, I believe we went a little overboard with the guidelines and length of shutdown....especially when a majority of the issues were in one region of the country. But I'm not going to be too critical of the "overreaction" because we didn't know much at the outset and simply had to learn more as we went along.

Most people (to one degree or another) and businesses that are starting to and have opened up are taking appropriate precautions....I know my employer has. I'm not saying everyone is being smart when in public, but what I am seeing (anecdotally) is that a majority of people are practicing some sense of personal safety and respecting the space of others.
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Old Yesterday, 09:16 PM   #3831
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I haven't posted in this thread for awhile, mostly because I was disgusted with the decision to basically destroy the small business community. I would have been fine with shutting down the country for a few WEEKS had they not allowed companies like Walmart, Target and Home Depot to turn every day into Black Friday while allowing the virus to spread more rapidly.

At this point, most of us have learned enough to be cautious without further destroying what is left of the economy.
Too many people have tried to infuse "wishful thinking" during the pandemic. People who drink do not drive drunk. Wishful thinking. People who are symptomatic will stay home. Again, wishful thinking. There is a blueprint for those who are part of the at risk group and it is called sheltering at all costs. For those who chose not to they chose to roll the dice. Of course there are those anomalies, but minimization of risk should have been the top priority for these people and not the maximization of it.
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Old Yesterday, 09:33 PM   #3832
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I think there will be some interesting news this week or next in regards to good therapeutic evidence for a medication to treat COVID.

I have no inside information, but if you follow the news/twitter of researchers in this field as closely as I have, you won't be surprised by the results of this anticipated publication.

Really hoping to hear something this week, but it's apparently in the process of peer review/publication, so it could take longer.
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Old Yesterday, 10:54 PM   #3833
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I donít remember saying it was garbage but I did say that you canít really extrapolate that tiny sample to the whole population and I stand by that, same with Iceland. I think the CDC estimate is high on asymptomatic cases and low on mortality rate based on New York, the numbers donít really make sense. Some experts are already pushing back on the CDCís estimate, they say even their worst-case estimate is overly optimistic. They already did an antibody survey in New York and found less than 20% positive. These numbers are all preliminary and we wonít know for sure until months after this is all over. Not really sure why youíre spiking the football.

By the way, the CDC has been lumping direct tests for the virus with antibody testing when reporting the numbers which makes that number worthless. They say theyíre going to stop the practice so we will see.
A 20% prevalence in NY would mean they have millions infected, and place the infection fatality rate (IFR) under 1%. In April, Cuomo said it was around .5% or so I think if I remember his press conference correctly.

The state of Oklahoma has conducted antibody tests every week for the past month and a half and have consistently gotten 4% prevalence. That would mean that 150,000 Oklahomans have been infected at some point. That would put the fatality rate in Oklahoma at around .5% and in agreement (or at least same order of magnitude) with NY numbers.

There are literally hundreds of thousands of cases that have gone undocumented due to mild symptoms or asymptomatic and patients never seeking care.
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