ouhoops.com
forums roster schedule stats rankings rpi bracketology big xII standings recruiting ouhoopstv

Go Back   OUHoops > Main Category > The Wayman Tisdale Men's Hoops Board

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-10-2020, 04:09 PM   #1
WichitaSooner
All-Conference
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,120
Default Tonight's Big 12 game

I hope I'm wrong, but I could see Baylor slipping up tonight (not that I like Baylor, but I want KU to stay a game behind in the loss column). Anyone else have that feeling?
WichitaSooner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 04:35 PM   #2
sheepdogs1
Elite Eight
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5,871
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

3 of their last 4 conference games were fairly close, so tonight's game, if it holds to form, will also be close.
sheepdogs1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 04:51 PM   #3
Hollisp
Role Player
 
Hollisp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 886
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Nothing surprises me in college basketball.
Hollisp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 05:16 PM   #4
skyvue
Final Four
 
skyvue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 6,326
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

I'm hoping both road teams win tonight (though I wouldn't bet on TCU to come through).
__________________
“When most people say they are being 'realistic,' they delude themselves; they are simply being negative.”
—Dr. Norman Vincent Peale
skyvue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 06:12 PM   #5
stormspencer
Sweet 16
 
stormspencer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grapevine, TX
Posts: 4,406
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

This is getting to the point where this may be both Texas and TCU's last stand....at least when it comes to getting back into the NCAA tournament conversation. Although Texas' schedule is a little more manageable down the stretch when compared to TCU. Both teams are 4-6 and it looks like either one would need to get to 9 conference wins to feel good about their NCAA chances. But I just don't see it happening in either case.
stormspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 06:29 PM   #6
opsooner
Final Four
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 6,927
Default

I don’t see Texas beating Baylor and I hope they don’t. Hoping Baylor’s first conference loss happens next week in Norman.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
opsooner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 09:26 PM   #7
stormspencer
Sweet 16
 
stormspencer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grapevine, TX
Posts: 4,406
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Texas playing hard.....TCU, well.....not so much.
stormspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 09:49 PM   #8
Maverick008
Walk-on
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 205
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by stormspencer View Post
Texas playing hard.....TCU, well.....not so much.
I get that TCU is getting beat by a lot more than Texas at this point but could you imagine this board if OU had 29 pts with 7:28 to go IN THE GAME like Texas does against Baylor playing hard or not?????
Maverick008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 10:05 PM   #9
stormspencer
Sweet 16
 
stormspencer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grapevine, TX
Posts: 4,406
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick008 View Post
I get that TCU is getting beat by a lot more than Texas at this point but could you imagine this board if OU had 29 pts with 7:28 to go IN THE GAME like Texas does against Baylor playing hard or not?????
Just as I typed that above, Texas was down 2. Then Baylor proceeded to go on a 16-2 run.....oh well. And yes, this board would be in flames if we were sitting at 42 points at home with just over a minute to go.
stormspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 10:19 PM   #10
thegreyghost
Walk-on
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 351
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Remember the days when teams use to score 40 points in a half.
thegreyghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 10:25 PM   #11
stormspencer
Sweet 16
 
stormspencer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grapevine, TX
Posts: 4,406
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

As a side note....why do people think that Jamie Dixon is a good coach? They only lost by 46 tonight....for their 6th straight loss.
stormspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 10:35 PM   #12
mict085
All-Conference
 
mict085's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,773
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by stormspencer View Post
As a side note....why do people think that Jamie Dixon is a good coach? They only lost by 46 tonight....for their 6th straight loss.
He did a great job at Pitt who’s been terrible since he left. He has made TCU better than they were before he arrived but they’re still towards the bottom of the league every year. They used to be an automatic win for everyone. Now, they’re just a probable win for most.
mict085 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 10:39 PM   #13
Max Power
Elite Eight
 
Max Power's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,362
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by stormspencer View Post
As a side note....why do people think that Jamie Dixon is a good coach? They only lost by 46 tonight....for their 6th straight loss.
Well he has been to the post season every year he was a head coach, 13 of the 17 are too the NCAA tournament. TCU was a bigger dumpster fire than capel left OU. They had been to any postseason twice in the 2000’s, 1 NIT in 2005, 1 CBI in 2012. He has had tcu in 2 nit’s, one championship and 1 NCAA tournament in his 3 years in Fort Worth.
__________________
"I've got a theory that if you give 100% all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end." - Larry Bird


Last edited by Max Power; 02-10-2020 at 10:42 PM.
Max Power is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 10:59 PM   #14
stormspencer
Sweet 16
 
stormspencer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grapevine, TX
Posts: 4,406
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
Well he has been to the post season every year he was a head coach, 13 of the 17 are too the NCAA tournament. TCU was a bigger dumpster fire than capel left OU. They had been to any postseason twice in the 2000’s, 1 NIT in 2005, 1 CBI in 2012. He has had tcu in 2 nit’s, one championship and 1 NCAA tournament in his 3 years in Fort Worth.
He did have initial success with another coach's players....which I will give him credit for. Made the NIT the first year. They made the NCAA tournament in '18, had a run in the NIT last year, but yet they seem destined for the NIT again this year (at best). I guess I expected more since he had some success at Pitt. And remember, he did take a over a very solid program at Pitt after Howland left. Not saying he's a bad coach at all, I just haven't seen the progression....rather more of a plateau over the last two years.
stormspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 11:02 PM   #15
Max Power
Elite Eight
 
Max Power's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,362
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by stormspencer View Post
He did have initial success with another coach's players....which I will give him credit for. Made the NIT the first year. They made the NCAA tournament in '18, had a run in the NIT last year, but yet they seem destined for the NIT again this year (at best). I guess I expected more since he had some success at Pitt. And remember, he did take a over a very solid program at Pitt after Howland left. Not saying he's a bad coach at all, I just haven't seen the progression....rather more of a plateau over the last two years.
He’s not a great coach, but he is a good coach. At TCU that’s about the best you can hope for. They have 1 elite 8 ever, and that was in 1968. Their last tournament win was in 1987. Now don’t get me wrong, I DO NOT want him at OU.
__________________
"I've got a theory that if you give 100% all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end." - Larry Bird

Max Power is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2020, 11:07 PM   #16
stormspencer
Sweet 16
 
stormspencer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grapevine, TX
Posts: 4,406
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
He’s not a great coach, but he is a good coach. At TCU that’s about the best you can hope for. They have 1 elite 8 ever, and that was in 1968. Their last tournament win was in 1987. Now don’t get me wrong, I DO NOT want him at OU.
Fair enough....maybe I jumped the gun a bit on his accomplishments at TCU. But living in DFW, there was some hoopla regarding his hiring a few years back. I guess I just expected more progression, but it hasn't really worked out that way.
stormspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2020, 08:44 AM   #17
thebigabd
National Champion
 
thebigabd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 12,658
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by stormspencer View Post
As a side note....why do people think that Jamie Dixon is a good coach? They only lost by 46 tonight....for their 6th straight loss.
I thought TCU would be better... mainly because they had an All big 12 guy, a legit center, and highly rated shooting guards... But the problem is they have absolutely no point guard, and no power forward. They get zero production from two positions on the floor. If they don't hit a bunch of 3's, they are awful.

Check out the roster:

Mickey Pearson - Freshman (redshirting)
Francisco Farabello - Freshman
PJ Fuller - Freshman
Diante Smith - Freshman
Taryn Todd - Freshman (redshirting)
Kevin Easley - Sophomore (Redshirting)
Jaedon Ledee - Sophomore
RJ Nembhard - Sophomore
Kevin Samuel - Sophomore
Charles O'Bannon - Sophomore (redshirting)

10 scholarship players are freshman or sophomores.. They have 4 players redshirting... 2 that are true freshman and 2 that are sitting out because of transfer.

They return Nembhard and Samuel as solid starters for next year.. but will be working in a bunch of transfers and redshirts for the rest of the positions.
__________________
Lonnie Kruger = YES
thebigabd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2020, 10:12 AM   #18
stormspencer
Sweet 16
 
stormspencer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grapevine, TX
Posts: 4,406
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigabd View Post
I thought TCU would be better... mainly because they had an All big 12 guy, a legit center, and highly rated shooting guards... But the problem is they have absolutely no point guard, and no power forward. They get zero production from two positions on the floor. If they don't hit a bunch of 3's, they are awful.

Check out the roster:

Mickey Pearson - Freshman (redshirting)
Francisco Farabello - Freshman
PJ Fuller - Freshman
Diante Smith - Freshman
Taryn Todd - Freshman (redshirting)
Kevin Easley - Sophomore (Redshirting)
Jaedon Ledee - Sophomore
RJ Nembhard - Sophomore
Kevin Samuel - Sophomore
Charles O'Bannon - Sophomore (redshirting)

10 scholarship players are freshman or sophomores.. They have 4 players redshirting... 2 that are true freshman and 2 that are sitting out because of transfer.

They return Nembhard and Samuel as solid starters for next year.. but will be working in a bunch of transfers and redshirts for the rest of the positions.
Yep, losing Bane will hurt. Also, Dennis and Grayer are gone.....but likely replaceable. Having said that, I'm not sure they are any better next year. I don't know enough about their young guys as to whether they can step in and make a difference.
stormspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2020, 10:14 AM   #19
CoachTalk
National Champion
 
CoachTalk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,745
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Question is... Would Beard leave Tech for Texas?
CoachTalk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2020, 10:24 AM   #20
thebigabd
National Champion
 
thebigabd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 12,658
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachTalk View Post
Question is... Would Beard leave Tech for Texas?
Texas is a tough gig... I wouldn't do that. If I were him I would wait for Lon to retire and go to OU.
__________________
Lonnie Kruger = YES
thebigabd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2020, 10:25 AM   #21
stormspencer
Sweet 16
 
stormspencer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grapevine, TX
Posts: 4,406
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachTalk View Post
Question is... Would Beard leave Tech for Texas?
Shaka's buyout is pretty large ($10.5 million). I'm not sure that the UT "higher ups" care enough about UT hoops to bite the monetary bullet and fire him this year. They also have to pay a new coach coming in. Next year, the buyout decreases and I think that is when you see Del Conte pull the plug on Shaka.

Regarding Beard, even though he is a UT alum, I don't think he leaves unless it is for a blue-blood. Tech keeps upping the ante on his salary (he makes $4.57 million/year) and he seems to like it there....at least for now.
stormspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2020, 10:26 AM   #22
daqman
Role Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 569
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigabd View Post
Texas is a tough gig... I wouldn't do that. If I were him I would wait for Lon to retire and go to OU.
Is OU a better job than Tech?
daqman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2020, 10:43 AM   #23
CoachTalk
National Champion
 
CoachTalk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,745
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigabd View Post
texas is a tough gig... I wouldn't do that. If i were him i would wait for lon to retire and go to ou.
boom!
CoachTalk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2020, 11:00 AM   #24
thebigabd
National Champion
 
thebigabd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 12,658
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by daqman View Post
Is OU a better job than Tech?
Historically, yes. Plus, I would imagine Norman is a better place to live than Lubbock.
__________________
Lonnie Kruger = YES
thebigabd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2020, 11:04 AM   #25
daqman
Role Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 569
Default Re: Tonight's Big 12 game

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigabd View Post
Historically, yes. Plus, I would imagine Norman is a better place to live than Lubbock.
I don't think history is important when you've already been to a national championship game, you have better fan support, your arena is better/newer, and you make more money than the guy you'd replace.
daqman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Hosted By: URLJet.com