MBB TPT2 TRANSFER PORTAL THREAD 2 - Page 3

CoachTalk · 03-13-2023, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy17

I thought Shroeder had a great upside. He came in injured and never got a chance to learn the system. He was excellent in Europe. I don't have much hope that Porter will be able to bring in hardly anyone our of the portal.

Lol. You don’t think he’ll bring in anyone?

StoopsBros · 03-13-2023, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy17

I thought Shroeder had a great upside. He came in injured and never got a chance to learn the system. He was excellent in Europe. I don't have much hope that Porter will be able to bring in hardly anyone our of the portal.

I loved Benny's tools/potential. I would actually sit there and watch German games (live) when they'd air. Good athlete, shooter, etc. Really looked like a kid who could develop into a starter.

Sad but such is life.

hoopsaustin · 03-13-2023, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sooner333

Of course we were excited about Benny...he was being essentially hyped by NBA draft experts on ESPN and his commitment was covered as somewhat of a big deal. It's too bad he couldn't sniff the floor...whether that was due to injury, increased competition, or something else. I guess we'll find out more when we learn his next destination and then how he plays there. Wish it could have worked out like we hoped.

Same song was sang about Matt Freeman "if he was in the states, hed be a five star" - Fran Franschidiot

WTSooner · 03-13-2023, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsaustin

Same song was sang about Matt Freeman "if he was in the states, hed be a five star" - Fran Franschidiot

To be fair college basketball is full of guys from overseas that are having success. OU's misses, to date, have been pretty minor (meaning a small number of them).

Boom Soon · 03-13-2023, 12:51 PM

I remember posters, A few years ago, say Uwakor was going to be a stud. We he isn't. So I guess we're all entitled to bad take about a player's potential. This may be mine:

Losing Shroeder is bad. Reason 1: Moser went to freaking Europe to get him. And now it's just an absolute waste. And that's not the kid's fault. At least get SOME return on the investment. Play the kid enough to see what he really can do. Maybe he was like Oweh and just needed consistency.
Reason 2: Moser is supposedly "building" using freshman. Well, one just left. Now Moser has to go to the portal to replace him. And Moser's track record with the portal is bad. I actually think he's pretty good at evaluating high school talent. Portal, not so much. I trust that he saw something in Shroeder's game when he recruited him. Why shouldn't you do everything you can to keep him around? And that is most likely playing time.

Reason 3, and the reason that ties it all together: 6'7 guard that plays above the rim... with three years of eligibility left. My goodness. Even if he's not polished, you can't coach that. How badly did OU need length at the guard position this year? Not everyone will agree with me, but I think he should have got more minutes as Oweh got more. I think he would have greatly improved and would be an important part of the team next year. Imagine having Shroder, Uzan, and Oweh, PLUS the incoming freshmen on the same team next year. That would be the athleticism we fans have so desperately wanted for years. Again, he didn't have to be super polished yet. Oweh and Uzan aren't.

I may be wrong on Shroeder. He may end up being a bust. But I honestly would rather have him be OU's bust then watch him tear it up at another school in the next few years.

I think what makes this more painful for a fan like me, is Moser played Noland and Jacob Groves for so long even when it was so obvious they weren't going to cut it this year. I have zero faith that Moser has any clue what he is doing with the roster.

Now, if someone has insider info that can refute anything I said I am more than willing to be completely wrong.

Boom Soon · 03-13-2023, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachTalk

Lol. You don’t think he’ll bring in anyone?

Will he bring in a 6'7 athletic guard with three years of eligibility left? I doubt it.

Kewllane · 03-13-2023, 12:56 PM

I don’t really get how most agree that next year is a HUGE year for Moser and we are in need of a BIG talent increase, then guys transfer out that probably weren’t going to make that big of a leap next year, and people get upset about it.

I get not wanting a bunch of roster turnover normally. But this isn’t normally. This is a coach literally coaching for his job, knowing he has to upgrade the talent big time. This isn’t an offseason where you want to just “retain talent” because it’s good for the program.

He has to completely revamp the roster with talent, or he won’t be here in a year, and these players that a lot of people are bummed about transferring out now, will be transferring in a year.

Literally the only players that need to stay in my opinion is Uzan, Oweh, and Godwin (Hill is leaving by all accounts, so I’m not including him in this). If literally ANYONE else on the roster decides to leave, I don’t think the program will be hurt NEXT YEAR, and that’s all Moser should be caring about right now.

StoopsBros · 03-13-2023, 12:57 PM

Longcat tweet and I apologize lol.

Are we sure anyone's working at OU right now? Maybe they're on vacation.

(not being completely serious FWIW but Timberlake and Austin are two kids I would at least contact)

Embedded Tweet

StoopsBros · 03-13-2023, 01:00 PM

I think I mentioned this kid on Scoop before I left. Not due to any contact by OU...but simply because he's a kid that I thought would portal.

He's good. Shot 44% from 3P.

Mike Mitchell Jr

Embedded Tweet

hoopsaustin · 03-13-2023, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WTSooner

To be fair college basketball is full of guys from overseas that are having success. OU's misses, to date, have been pretty minor (meaning a small number of them).

Not as to foreigners. Were batting like 0.000. Polla, ahmed, freeman, schroeder..

Boom Soon · 03-13-2023, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kewllane

I don’t really get how most agree that next year is a HUGE year for Moser and we are in need of a BIG talent increase, then guys transfer out that probably weren’t going to make that big of a leap next year, and people get upset about it.

I get not wanting a bunch of roster turnover normally. But this isn’t normally. This is a coach literally coaching for his job, knowing he has to upgrade the talent big time. This isn’t an offseason where you want to just “retain talent” because it’s good for the program.

He has to completely revamp the roster with talent, or he won’t be here in a year, and these players that a lot of people are bummed about transferring out now, will be transferring in a year.

Literally the only players that need to stay in my opinion is Uzan, Oweh, and Godwin (Hill is leaving by all accounts, so I’m not including him in this). If literally ANYONE else on the roster decides to leave, I don’t think the program will be hurt NEXT YEAR, and that’s all Moser should be caring about right now.

Good points. But a coach also has to look at what the team needs most. One can't just revamp a roster because that's what is expected when he's in the hot seat. There's got to be some tact behind it. I think we can all agree that athleticism and length is what Moser should be after. OU desperately needs those two things, and that is what Shroeder had (at the very least). But now that length and athleticism is gone, and we have to trust that Moser can go find another athletic guard, with length from the portal. Oh and one that wants to go to OU.

On the contrast, I will not be sad at all if Noland, and/or J. Groves leaves. Why? Because OU needs better athletes than them. If OU was full of really good athletes but lacked basketball skill then things would be different. Maybe the loss of one of the top athletes on the team wouldn't hurt so much.

mict085 · 03-13-2023, 01:18 PM

I don’t think any of us know how good the German kid is because he never played. If you’re going to recruit a kid from Europe, he needs to stay more than one season. Good grief. What a giant waste of time and resources.

StoopsBros · 03-13-2023, 01:20 PM

Sticking with the foreign-born theme...

6'9 freshman from Japan (played for Lamar).

Yuto Yamanouchi

6.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg

Embedded Tweet

CoachTalk · 03-13-2023, 01:21 PM

I think Jacob stays. Imo.

StoopsBros · 03-13-2023, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachTalk

I think Jacob stays. Imo.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

In the nicest way possible, I really hope I don't have to watch him in an OU uni again.

StoopsBros · 03-13-2023, 01:34 PM

Embedded Tweet

Noah Fernandes

Has averaged double digit scoring three years in a row (this last season was shortened due to injury)

Embedded Tweet

Boom Soon · 03-13-2023, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachTalk

I think Jacob stays. Imo.

Lose the athletic freshmen, keep the unathletic senior. Perfection.

StoopsBros · 03-13-2023, 01:46 PM

Wow, one of Butler's best players is hitting the portal and he's from Indianapolis at that.

G Jayden Taylor

CoachTalk · 03-13-2023, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom Soon

Lose the athletic freshmen, keep the unathletic senior. Perfection.

You sure have it all figured out.

WichitaSooner · 03-13-2023, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom Soon

Lose the athletic freshmen, keep the unathletic senior. Perfection.

This would be almost comical if it happens. Sticking with a 5th-year guy with a ceiling about two inches above the ground.

StoopsBros · 03-13-2023, 01:49 PM

FWIW, I'm mostly kidding on Jacob.

At the end of the day, I'm going to cheer for whoever dons the C&C. Even the ones who make by eyes bleed.

....also, I kind of have my eye on Dildy. Some of his twitter follows have been odd recently. Numerous HS ballers from Massachusetts and today, the basketball ops person at Loyola MD (Sydney Hines).

StoopsBros · 03-13-2023, 02:10 PM

Embedded Tweet

Looks intimidating. Sign him up.

(jk, he's a 7'0 frosh who averaged 2.6 ppg, 1.9 rpg)

StoopsBros · 03-13-2023, 02:24 PM

This kid followed Coach Humphrey. No follow back yet.

Alex Anderson

Embedded Tweet

steverocks35 · 03-13-2023, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StoopsBros

Embedded Tweet

Looks intimidating. Sign him up.

(jk, he's a 7'0 frosh who averaged 2.6 ppg, 1.9 rpg)

Is that Nick Thompson's son?

WTSooner · 03-13-2023, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StoopsBros

FWIW, I'm mostly kidding on Jacob.

At the end of the day, I'm going to cheer for whoever dons the C&C. Even the ones who make by eyes bleed.

....also, I kind of have my eye on Dildy. Some of his twitter follows have been odd recently. Numerous HS ballers from Massachusetts and today, the basketball ops person at Loyola MD (Sydney Hines).

We have bigger issues than J. Groves getting backup minutes at the 3/4. Not saying he is a stud, just that we have bigger issues. If he stays and starts? That's an issue. Don't see that happening though with PM's comments about what he is looking for.

Also, if the rumors are to be believed, Collins is a big man at Kentucky that will be heading this way.....after UK's tourney is over, of course.