 |
|
01-24-2023, 02:48 PM
|
#51
|
National Champion
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 13,461
|
Re: ND job opening
Frank would be a fantastic assistant to Quannas White. However, with Doc Sadler and Humphrey already on staff, I think it would be better to go with Hoffman and Price. If Hoffman won't leave, maybe Frank Haith would come in.
Quote:
Omg no. Ou fans' obsession with hiring ex ou people is annoying to me
|
You don't think Quannas White and that staff would win at OU?
Quote:
You think Bob is leaving uco HC for asst at Ou?
Dudes not going back to d1 grind for asst: yes I know he’d make a ton of money.
|
He's got UCO at 18-1 this year too.... Might be a tough sell. However, maybe he wants an easier gig that pays more money. He'd be the first call I would make if I was stepping into the job.
Quote:
I would take Quannas in a heartbeat! I also think he might be interested. He has to know Kelvin will stay at UH until Kellen is ready to take over.
First assistant now or not, Q has some solid credentials. Two former Sooners is better than one should HP join the Q. Add the Hump and you’ve got a perfect trio. I also think the timing is right to hire an African American staff!
If Moser leaves, I’ll be on board with this idea!
|
Exactly.... he's played and coached under one of the best coaches in the world for a long time. He's paid some dues... Went out on his own with Western Kentucky and Tulane, been mentoring under Sampson at Houston... He's ready.
He's our guy.
__________________
Quannas White - The Future
Last edited by thebigabd; 01-24-2023 at 02:52 PM.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:02 PM
|
#52
|
Owner/Operator
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: OKlahoma City
Posts: 10,745
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigabd
He's got UCO at 18-1 this year too.... Might be a tough sell. However, maybe he wants an easier gig that pays more money. He'd be the first call I would make if I was stepping into the job.
Exactly.... he's played and coached under one of the best coaches in the world for a long time. He's paid some dues... Went out on his own with Western Kentucky and Tulane, been mentoring under Sampson at Houston... He's ready.
|
lol at thinking being the #1 ast at OU would be an "easier gig"
and again Qwhite is not even the #1 ast at houston
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:04 PM
|
#53
|
Admin Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 16,061
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoulderSooner
|
That changes nothing, it confirms what I said.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:04 PM
|
#54
|
Elite Eight
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 5,085
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoulderSooner
lol at thinking being the #1 ast at OU would be an "easier gig"
and again Qwhite is not even the #1 ast at houston
|
But Boulder, he learned for a couple years under Ed Conroy. THE Ed Conroy!
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:12 PM
|
#55
|
National Champion
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 13,461
|
Re: ND job opening
Man, I can't believe you guys are ****ting on Quannas White and his accomplishments.... Pretty bad.
__________________
Quannas White - The Future
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:15 PM
|
#56
|
Admin Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 16,061
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by WichitaSooner
But Boulder, he learned for a couple years under Ed Conroy. THE Ed Conroy!
|
Typical WichitaSooner…scoffing at the time he spent under Ed Conroy, while ignoring the decade he served with Stansbury and Sampson as an assistant!
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:31 PM
|
#57
|
Role Player
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dallas
Posts: 788
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigabd
He's our guy.
|
He's your guy.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:35 PM
|
#58
|
National Champion
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,682
|
Re: ND job opening
i would not mind Q
__________________
"But I know some of the qualities of the coach I would pick. Somebody that doesn't mind working, a coach that's going to bring a fresh mindset and help us all get better as basketball players as well as men. A coach that has all our best interests at heart."
-Romero Osby
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:37 PM
|
#59
|
Role Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 957
|
Re: ND job opening
This is the most fun thread I’ve seen on here in a long time. Thanks guys and keep up the good work.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:39 PM
|
#60
|
Elite Eight
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 5,085
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdaSooner
Typical WichitaSooner…scoffing at the time he spent under Ed Conroy, while ignoring the decade he served with Stansbury and Sampson as an assistant!
|
ADA, do you hear Quannas mentioned much when jobs come open around the country, especially jobs at a P5 school, and one that is a top 25 all-time program? Have you even heard him mentioned for mid major jobs? If not, why do you think that is? Perhaps because guys who have never even been a lead assistant aren't considered remotely qualified for those kinds of jobs, even if they happened to be associated with Kelvin Sampson? I mean, going off the logic of some of these posts, maybe we should offer the job to Kelvin's daughter. She is even closer to him than Quannas and Hollis, and she also works for him at Houston.
Who knows, maybe 20 years from now, Quannas is a coaching star. But his resume is not even close to being in the mix to be the head coach at OU if the job comes open in the near future. If he hadn't played here, none of you would even entertain the notion that a guy with his credentials should be our next coach.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:45 PM
|
#61
|
All-American
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 3,232
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by WTSooner
Not how NIL works.
|
Yeah, you've got it figured out. And NIL money can't be used to coerce or incentivize going to a certain school. It's a good thing these rules are being followed.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 03:46 PM
|
#62
|
All-American
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 3,232
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by WichitaSooner
I mean, going off the logic of some of these posts, maybe we should offer the job to Kelvin's daughter.
|
No way! We would only accept Lon's daughter.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 04:16 PM
|
#63
|
National Champion
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 13,461
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Who knows, maybe 20 years from now, Quannas is a coaching star.
|
So Quannas has to wait until he's 62 to be a coaching star?
Quote:
But his resume is not even close to being in the mix to be the head coach at OU if the job comes open in the near future.
|
"If Juwan Howard had never played at Michigan there is no way they would have hired him"..... said someone with no vision a few years back. Now he's had them in Back to Back Sweet 16s.
Lincoln Riley was never a head coach before coming to OU football.... OU.... FOOTBALL. He's doing ok.
Jerome Tang had never been a head coach before getting the job at K-State... How's he doing? He had a lot of years under Scott Drew.
Kelvin Sampson and I agree that Quannas White is a very good coach and a winner.
Sometimes in life you have to take a chance on someone....
All that being said, I doubt Moser goes to Notre Dame.
__________________
Quannas White - The Future
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 04:29 PM
|
#64
|
Administrator
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,520
|
Re: ND job opening
Before hiring any Kelvin Sampson assistant coach, I would like to know if anyone has a list of what his past assistants did when leading their own programs. I know Jason Rabadeaux and Ray Lopes were absolute disasters, but not sure on the others. and YES, that does matter to me. Coach K and Bill Belichick are legends in their respective sports, but I would be very careful about hiring one of their assistants for a head coaching position due to poor track records. Some coaches are GREAT at DEVELOPING assistant coaches to lead their own programs...others not so much.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 04:33 PM
|
#65
|
National Champion
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,919
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigabd
All that being said, I doubt Moser goes to Notre Dame.
|
I think he'd likely go if offered. No idea if he will be offered.
__________________
I hate to lose more than I like to win. - Larry Bird, 1998
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 04:33 PM
|
#66
|
National Champion
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 13,461
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaymanFan
Before hiring any Kelvin Sampson assistant coach, I would like to know if anyone has a list of what his past assistants did when leading their own programs. I know Jason Rabadeaux and Ray Lopes were absolute disasters, but not sure on the others. and YES, that does matter to me. Coach K and Bill Belichick are legends in their respective sports, but I would be very careful about hiring one of their assistants for a head coaching position due to poor track records. Some coaches are GREAT at DEVELOPING assistant coaches to lead their own programs...others not so much.
|
The Mike Leach coaching tree has to be the most successful in the modern era of college football.
__________________
Quannas White - The Future
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 04:44 PM
|
#67
|
Role Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 906
|
Re: ND job opening
If Moser does leave, I think OU should go after Grant McCasland. Has had continued success at North Texas, extensive coaching experience in the Big 12 under Scott Drew, and since he's been in Texas for so long should have recruiting connections.
Make ND pay the buyout and use that to pay North Texas for his buyout.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 04:48 PM
|
#68
|
National Champion
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,919
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by allday92
If Moser does leave, I think OU should go after Grant McCasland. Has had continued success at North Texas, extensive coaching experience in the Big 12 under Scott Drew, and since he's been in Texas for so long should have recruiting connections.
Make ND pay the buyout and use that to pay North Texas for his buyout.
|
I wasn't excited about him as an option before, and I don't think I'd be any more excited this time around.
I don't know who we should chase after if Moser leaves, I haven't given it a ton of thought, and honestly, I don't follow all of college hoops as intently as I used to.
OU needs to figure out who they want to be as a basketball program, and find somebody that fits that identify. That includes recruiting. And remember, we're headed to the SEC. New/different recruiting grounds, and all of the other changes that come with such a move.
__________________
I hate to lose more than I like to win. - Larry Bird, 1998
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 04:50 PM
|
#69
|
Elite Eight
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 5,085
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigabd
So Quannas has to wait until he's 62 to be a coaching star?
"If Juwan Howard had never played at Michigan there is no way they would have hired him"..... said someone with no vision a few years back. Now he's had them in Back to Back Sweet 16s.
Lincoln Riley was never a head coach before coming to OU football.... OU.... FOOTBALL. He's doing ok.
Jerome Tang had never been a head coach before getting the job at K-State... How's he doing? He had a lot of years under Scott Drew.
Kelvin Sampson and I agree that Quannas White is a very good coach and a winner.
Sometimes in life you have to take a chance on someone....
All that being said, I doubt Moser goes to Notre Dame.
|
So you named a guy who was an NBA All Star and had experience as an NBA assistant and who was such a big name that he would able to appeal to recruits based off his name. Then you named a guy who was widely considered an offensive genius, and who spent time at OU as an assistant before being named head coach. Then you named a guy who was a 19-year assistant at a great program, was the lead assistant, and was known to be a stud recruiter. Which one is Quannas supposed to be?
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 04:54 PM
|
#70
|
Owner/Operator
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: OKlahoma City
Posts: 10,745
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by WichitaSooner
So you named a guy who was an NBA All Star and had experience as an NBA assistant and who was such a big name that he would able to appeal to recruits based off his name. Then you named a guy who was widely considered an offensive genius, and who spent time at OU as an assistant before being named head coach. Then you named a guy who was a 19-year assistant at a great program, was the lead assistant, and was known to be a stud recruiter. Which one is Quannas supposed to be?
|
was coming to type basically the same thing
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 04:58 PM
|
#71
|
All-American
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 3,232
|
Re: ND job opening
I would absolutely love to bring Quannas on as our lead assistant. He bleeds crimson, has experience under a HOF coach, and has great recruiting ties in Houston and Louisiana. If we did that, and Porter left in 2-3 years, I think he would be a consideration as Moser's replacement. Bringing him on right now is just asking for more growing pains, and we've had plenty of that already.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 05:19 PM
|
#72
|
National Champion
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 10,919
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eielson
I would absolutely love to bring Quannas on as our lead assistant. He bleeds crimson, has experience under a HOF coach, and has great recruiting ties in Houston and Louisiana. If we did that, and Porter left in 2-3 years, I think he would be a consideration as Moser's replacement. Bringing him on right now is just asking for more growing pains, and we've had plenty of that already.
|
We aren't having growing pains. PM has been a head basketball coach longer than some of our players have been alive.
Maybe, just MAYBE, this is who PM is as a coach.
__________________
I hate to lose more than I like to win. - Larry Bird, 1998
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 05:22 PM
|
#73
|
Admin Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 16,061
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eielson
I would absolutely love to bring Quannas on as our lead assistant. He bleeds crimson, has experience under a HOF coach, and has great recruiting ties in Houston and Louisiana. If we did that, and Porter left in 2-3 years, I think he would be a consideration as Moser's replacement. Bringing him on right now is just asking for more growing pains, and we've had plenty of that already.
|
I like that plan better than the one I proposed!
It bothers me when a poster like bigabd is ridiculed unmercifully every time he presents a thought the board’s chief monitor doesn’t agree with or doesn’t like! I have to take a deep breath and count to ten sometimes, but it saddens me when a founding member of this board does not feel at home anymore.
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 05:28 PM
|
#74
|
Sweet 16
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,505
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by wichitasooner
where does haith fit in?
|
🤣 🤣
|
|
|
01-24-2023, 05:30 PM
|
#75
|
Role Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 906
|
Re: ND job opening
Quote:
Originally Posted by WTSooner
I wasn't excited about him as an option before, and I don't think I'd be any more excited this time around.
I don't know who we should chase after if Moser leaves, I haven't given it a ton of thought, and honestly, I don't follow all of college hoops as intently as I used to.
OU needs to figure out who they want to be as a basketball program, and find somebody that fits that identify. That includes recruiting. And remember, we're headed to the SEC. New/different recruiting grounds, and all of the other changes that come with such a move.
|
I agree with you overall. There is not an obvious candidate to go after.
And honestly, I'm not sure how attractive the job would be overall? I may be a little harsh in my view of the job, but you'll have a 3rd coach in 4 years with the previous two begging for a new arena. Will likely lose the two commits for next year, and have a ton of defections to the portal. The athletic department is completely focused on getting the football program ready for the SEC and all of the stuff being done under Thad Turnipseed.
It's going to be quite the task for the new coach.
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:35 PM.
|