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Old 01-07-2023, 10:29 PM   #26
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After Tech
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Tanner Groves -- +98-----380:50
Grant Sherfield - +93-----465:06
Jalen Hill -------- +81-----499:22
Jacob Groves --- +70-----397:36
CJ Noland------- +44-----214:28
Bijan Cortes ---- +37-----247:40
Otega Oweh ---- +26-----83:38
Milos Uzan ------ +32-----373:42
Sam Godwin ---- +21-----287:16
Yaya Keita ------- +4------03:24
Benny Schroder - +1------05:25
Joe Bamisile ----- -7------156:56

Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Tanner Groves -- +14-----71:34
Milos Uzan ------ +4------100:34
Bijan Cortes ----- +4 -----64:44
Otega Oweh ---- +1-------4:44
Jalen Hill --------- 0------114:32
Sam Godwin ---- -1-------47:25
Jacob Groves ---- -2------72:53
CJ Noland-------- -2-------44:31
Grant Sherfield - -11-----106:04
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Old 01-10-2023, 08:05 AM   #27
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Worst +/- in conference is Sherfield. That's why it's a useless stat.
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Old 01-10-2023, 09:11 AM   #28
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Worst +/- in conference is Sherfield. That's why it's a useless stat.
It's not useless, it just isn't the end all be all
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Old 01-10-2023, 10:19 AM   #29
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Worst +/- in conference is Sherfield. That's why it's a useless stat.
he was terrible against ISU this reflects that
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Old 01-10-2023, 10:38 AM   #30
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he was terrible against ISU this reflects that
He's our best player and it's not close. The +/- is useless.
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Old 01-10-2023, 10:54 AM   #31
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He's our best player and it's not close. The +/- is useless.
It has only been 3 games and one of them he played terrible.
If you look at overall +/- for the season, look who is near the top.
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Old 01-10-2023, 11:03 AM   #32
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It has only been 3 games and one of them he played terrible.
If you look at overall +/- for the season, look who is near the top.
very much this
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Old 01-10-2023, 12:12 PM   #33
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So we get +/- for individual games but the 3 game sample size is too small? It's a dumb misleading stat and I'll die on that hill.
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Old 01-10-2023, 12:24 PM   #34
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So we get +/- for individual games but the 3 game sample size is too small? It's a dumb misleading stat and I'll die on that hill.
I would agree that it is useless for an individual game
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Old 01-10-2023, 12:32 PM   #35
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I would agree that it is useless for an individual game
i would say that it can be useless for a single game and is much better gauge over a season of games ..


however depending on context it can show things in a single game ..

like ISU OU barely lost and Grant was -17 he was terrible in that game
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Old 01-12-2023, 07:47 AM   #36
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Default Re: Season Plus / Minus post KU

After KU
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Grant Sherfield - +88-----502:52
Tanner Groves -- +87-----402:45
Jalen Hill -------- +75-----534:21
Jacob Groves --- +71-----416:43
CJ Noland------- +45-----236:47
Bijan Cortes ---- +40-----261:50
Sam Godwin ---- +27-----301:55
Otega Oweh ---- +26-----83:38
Milos Uzan ------ +23-----408:47
Yaya Keita ------- +4------03:24
Benny Schroder - +1------05:25
Joe Bamisile ----- -7------156:56

Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Bijan Cortes ----- +7 -----78:54
Sam Godwin ---- +5-------62:04
Tanner Groves -- +3 ------93:29
Otega Oweh ---- +1-------4:44
Jacob Groves ---- -1------92:00
CJ Noland-------- -1-------66:50
Milos Uzan ------ -5------135:39
Jalen Hill -------- -6------149:31
Grant Sherfield - -16-----143:50
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Old 01-14-2023, 08:24 PM   #37
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After WVU
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Grant Sherfield - +94 ----537:34
Tanner Groves -- +93 ----450:15
Jacob Groves --- +79 ----451:25
Jalen Hill -------- +77 ----534:21
CJ Noland------- +42 ----254:36
Bijan Cortes ---- +36 ----269:01
Milos Uzan ------ +26 ----446:49
Sam Godwin ---- +21 ----316:01
Otega Oweh ---- +19 ----89:36
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Benny Schroder - +1 -----05:25
Joe Bamisile ----- -7 -----156:56

Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Tanner Groves -- +9 ----116:18
Jacob Groves --- +7 ----116:41
Bijan Cortes ---- +3 -----86:05
Sam Godwin ---- -1 ------76:10
Milos Uzan ------ -2 -----173:41
Jalen Hill -------- -4 -----184:13
CJ Noland-------- -4 ------94:38
Otega Oweh ----- -6 ------10:42
Grant Sherfield - -10 ----178:32
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Old 01-16-2023, 08:57 AM   #38
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Those conference numbers are wild
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Old 01-16-2023, 11:05 AM   #39
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Those conference numbers are wild
grant was -17 against ISU and that is still weighing him down
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Old 01-21-2023, 02:33 PM   #40
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Default Re: Season Plus / Minus post osu

After osu
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Grant Sherfield - +82 ----570:48
Tanner Groves -- +78 ----477:32
Jacob Groves --- +73 ----512:44
Jalen Hill -------- +65 ----569:09
CJ Noland------- +36 ----275:27
Bijan Cortes ---- +27 ----287:00
Sam Godwin ---- +25 ----326:53
Otega Oweh ---- +17 ----91:01
Milos Uzan ------ +4 -----479:04
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Benny Schroder - +1 -----05:25
Joe Bamisile ----- -7 -----156:56

Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Sam Godwin ---- +3 -----87:02
Jacob Groves --- +1 -----138:00
Tanner Groves -- -6 -----143:35
Otega Oweh ----- -8 -----12:07
CJ Noland-------- -10 ---115:29
Bijan Cortes ---- -15 ----104:04
Jalen Hill -------- -16 ----219:01
Grant Sherfield - -22 ----211:46
Milos Uzan ------ -24 ----205:56

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Default Re: Season Plus / Minus post Baylor

After Baylor
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Grant Sherfield - +79 ----608:00
Tanner Groves -- +76 ----507:06
Jacob Groves --- +67 ----529:59
Jalen Hill -------- +63 ----603:31
CJ Noland------- +40 ----295:31
Bijan Cortes ---- +30 ----299:29
Sam Godwin ---- +25 ----337:19
Otega Oweh ---- +21 ----101:40
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Benny Schroder - +1 -----05:25
Milos Uzan ------- -4 -----507:03
Joe Bamisile ----- -7 -----156:56

Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Sam Godwin ---- +3 -----97:28
Jacob Groves --- -5 -----155:15
Otega Oweh ----- -4 -----22:46
CJ Noland-------- -6 -----135:33
Tanner Groves -- -8 -----173:09
Bijan Cortes ---- -12 ----116:33
Jalen Hill -------- -18 ----253:23
Grant Sherfield - -25 ----248:58
Milos Uzan ------ -32 ----233:55
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Old 01-25-2023, 08:29 AM   #42
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Default Re: Season Plus / Minus post TCU

After TCU this one was really ugly
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Jacob Groves --- +57 ----542:15
Tanner Groves -- +56 ----524:45
Grant Sherfield - +53 ----632:07
Jalen Hill -------- +45 ----628:12
Sam Godwin ---- +21 ----355:58
CJ Noland------- +16 -----316:43
Bijan Cortes ---- +16 ----325:07
Otega Oweh ---- +14 ----115:00
Benny Schroder - +5 -----15:34
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Joe Bamisile ----- -5 -----163:18
Milos Uzan ------ -22 -----532:50

Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Benny Schroder - +4 -----10:09
Joe Bamisile ----- +2 -----06:22
Sam Godwin ---- -1 -----116:07
Jacob Groves --- -15 ----167:31
Otega Oweh ---- -11 -----36:06
Bijan Cortes ---- -26 ----142:11
Tanner Groves -- -28 ----190:48
CJ Noland-------- -30 ----156:45
Jalen Hill -------- -36 ----278:14
Milos Uzan ------ -50 ----259:42
Grant Sherfield - -51 ----273:05
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