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01-07-2023, 10:29 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Tech
After Tech
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Tanner Groves -- +98-----380:50
Grant Sherfield - +93-----465:06
Jalen Hill -------- +81-----499:22
Jacob Groves --- +70-----397:36
CJ Noland------- +44-----214:28
Bijan Cortes ---- +37-----247:40
Otega Oweh ---- +26-----83:38
Milos Uzan ------ +32-----373:42
Sam Godwin ---- +21-----287:16
Yaya Keita ------- +4------03:24
Benny Schroder - +1------05:25
Joe Bamisile ----- -7------156:56
Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Benny Schroder - +4 -----10:09
Joe Bamisile ----- +2 -----06:22
Sam Godwin ---- -1 -----116:07
Jacob Groves --- -15 ----167:31
Otega Oweh ---- -11 -----36:06
Bijan Cortes ---- -26 ----142:11
Tanner Groves -- -28 ----190:48
CJ Noland-------- -30 ----156:45
Jalen Hill -------- -36 ----278:14
Milos Uzan ------ -50 ----259:42
Grant Sherfield - -51 ----273:05
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01-10-2023, 08:05 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Tech
Worst +/- in conference is Sherfield. That's why it's a useless stat.
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01-10-2023, 09:11 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Tech
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Originally Posted by steverocks35
Worst +/- in conference is Sherfield. That's why it's a useless stat.
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It's not useless, it just isn't the end all be all
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01-10-2023, 10:19 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Tech
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Originally Posted by steverocks35
Worst +/- in conference is Sherfield. That's why it's a useless stat.
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he was terrible against ISU this reflects that
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01-10-2023, 10:38 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Tech
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Originally Posted by BoulderSooner
he was terrible against ISU this reflects that
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He's our best player and it's not close. The +/- is useless.
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01-10-2023, 10:54 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Tech
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He's our best player and it's not close. The +/- is useless.
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It has only been 3 games and one of them he played terrible.
If you look at overall +/- for the season, look who is near the top.
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01-10-2023, 11:03 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Tech
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Originally Posted by SoonerBounce13
It has only been 3 games and one of them he played terrible.
If you look at overall +/- for the season, look who is near the top.
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very much this
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01-10-2023, 12:12 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Tech
So we get +/- for individual games but the 3 game sample size is too small? It's a dumb misleading stat and I'll die on that hill.
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01-10-2023, 12:24 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Tech
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So we get +/- for individual games but the 3 game sample size is too small? It's a dumb misleading stat and I'll die on that hill.
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I would agree that it is useless for an individual game
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01-10-2023, 12:32 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Tech
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I would agree that it is useless for an individual game
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i would say that it can be useless for a single game and is much better gauge over a season of games ..
however depending on context it can show things in a single game ..
like ISU OU barely lost and Grant was -17 he was terrible in that game
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01-12-2023, 07:47 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post KU
After KU
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Grant Sherfield - +88-----502:52
Tanner Groves -- +87-----402:45
Jalen Hill -------- +75-----534:21
Jacob Groves --- +71-----416:43
CJ Noland------- +45-----236:47
Bijan Cortes ---- +40-----261:50
Sam Godwin ---- +27-----301:55
Otega Oweh ---- +26-----83:38
Milos Uzan ------ +23-----408:47
Yaya Keita ------- +4------03:24
Benny Schroder - +1------05:25
Joe Bamisile ----- -7------156:56
Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Bijan Cortes ----- +7 -----78:54
Sam Godwin ---- +5-------62:04
Tanner Groves -- +3 ------93:29
Otega Oweh ---- +1-------4:44
Jacob Groves ---- -1------92:00
CJ Noland-------- -1-------66:50
Milos Uzan ------ -5------135:39
Jalen Hill -------- -6------149:31
Grant Sherfield - -16-----143:50
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01-14-2023, 08:24 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post WVU
After WVU
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Grant Sherfield - +94 ----537:34
Tanner Groves -- +93 ----450:15
Jacob Groves --- +79 ----451:25
Jalen Hill -------- +77 ----534:21
CJ Noland------- +42 ----254:36
Bijan Cortes ---- +36 ----269:01
Milos Uzan ------ +26 ----446:49
Sam Godwin ---- +21 ----316:01
Otega Oweh ---- +19 ----89:36
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Benny Schroder - +1 -----05:25
Joe Bamisile ----- -7 -----156:56
Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Tanner Groves -- +9 ----116:18
Jacob Groves --- +7 ----116:41
Bijan Cortes ---- +3 -----86:05
Sam Godwin ---- -1 ------76:10
Milos Uzan ------ -2 -----173:41
Jalen Hill -------- -4 -----184:13
CJ Noland-------- -4 ------94:38
Otega Oweh ----- -6 ------10:42
Grant Sherfield - -10 ----178:32
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01-16-2023, 08:57 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post WVU
Those conference numbers are wild
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01-16-2023, 11:05 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post WVU
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Originally Posted by SoonerBounce13
Those conference numbers are wild
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grant was -17 against ISU and that is still weighing him down
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01-21-2023, 02:33 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post osu
After osu
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Grant Sherfield - +82 ----570:48
Tanner Groves -- +78 ----477:32
Jacob Groves --- +73 ----512:44
Jalen Hill -------- +65 ----569:09
CJ Noland------- +36 ----275:27
Bijan Cortes ---- +27 ----287:00
Sam Godwin ---- +25 ----326:53
Otega Oweh ---- +17 ----91:01
Milos Uzan ------ +4 -----479:04
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Benny Schroder - +1 -----05:25
Joe Bamisile ----- -7 -----156:56
Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Sam Godwin ---- +3 -----87:02
Jacob Groves --- +1 -----138:00
Tanner Groves -- -6 -----143:35
Otega Oweh ----- -8 -----12:07
CJ Noland-------- -10 ---115:29
Bijan Cortes ---- -15 ----104:04
Jalen Hill -------- -16 ----219:01
Grant Sherfield - -22 ----211:46
Milos Uzan ------ -24 ----205:56
ugly update
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01-21-2023, 08:18 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Baylor
After Baylor
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Grant Sherfield - +79 ----608:00
Tanner Groves -- +76 ----507:06
Jacob Groves --- +67 ----529:59
Jalen Hill -------- +63 ----603:31
CJ Noland------- +40 ----295:31
Bijan Cortes ---- +30 ----299:29
Sam Godwin ---- +25 ----337:19
Otega Oweh ---- +21 ----101:40
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Benny Schroder - +1 -----05:25
Milos Uzan ------- -4 -----507:03
Joe Bamisile ----- -7 -----156:56
Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Sam Godwin ---- +3 -----97:28
Jacob Groves --- -5 -----155:15
Otega Oweh ----- -4 -----22:46
CJ Noland-------- -6 -----135:33
Tanner Groves -- -8 -----173:09
Bijan Cortes ---- -12 ----116:33
Jalen Hill -------- -18 ----253:23
Grant Sherfield - -25 ----248:58
Milos Uzan ------ -32 ----233:55
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01-25-2023, 08:29 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post TCU
After TCU this one was really ugly
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Jacob Groves --- +57 ----542:15
Tanner Groves -- +56 ----524:45
Grant Sherfield - +53 ----632:07
Jalen Hill -------- +45 ----628:12
Sam Godwin ---- +21 ----355:58
CJ Noland------- +16 -----316:43
Bijan Cortes ---- +16 ----325:07
Otega Oweh ---- +14 ----115:00
Benny Schroder - +5 -----15:34
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Joe Bamisile ----- -5 -----163:18
Milos Uzan ------ -22 -----532:50
Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Benny Schroder - +4 -----10:09
Joe Bamisile ----- +2 -----06:22
Sam Godwin ---- -1 -----116:07
Jacob Groves --- -15 ----167:31
Otega Oweh ---- -11 -----36:06
Bijan Cortes ---- -26 ----142:11
Tanner Groves -- -28 ----190:48
CJ Noland-------- -30 ----156:45
Jalen Hill -------- -36 ----278:14
Milos Uzan ------ -50 ----259:42
Grant Sherfield - -51 ----273:05
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01-31-2023, 07:24 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Alabama
After Bama this one was much better
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Tanner Groves -- +79 ----549:45
Jalen Hill -------- +77 ----662:53
Grant Sherfield - +75 ----666:24
Jacob Groves --- +63 ----553:22
Sam Godwin ---- +29 ----367:04
CJ Noland------- +25 -----331:56
Bijan Cortes ---- +40 ----343:00
Otega Oweh ---- +7 -----125:11
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Milos Uzan ------- +1 ----567:42
Benny Schroder - 0 ------16:59
Joe Bamisile ----- -10 ----164:43
Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Benny Schroder - +4 -----10:09
Joe Bamisile ----- +2 -----06:22
Sam Godwin ---- -1 -----116:07
Jacob Groves --- -15 ----167:31
Otega Oweh ---- -11 -----36:06
Bijan Cortes ---- -26 ----142:11
Tanner Groves -- -28 ----190:48
CJ Noland-------- -30 ----156:45
Jalen Hill -------- -36 ----278:14
Milos Uzan ------ -50 ----259:42
Grant Sherfield - -51 ----273:05
Last edited by BoulderSooner; 01-31-2023 at 11:08 AM.
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01-31-2023, 10:34 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Alabama
How does this change for the conference only stats when it was BAMA?
Or are you already including us in the SEC?
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01-31-2023, 11:07 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Alabama
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How does this change for the conference only stats when it was BAMA?
Or are you already including us in the SEC?
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good catch my bad i will revert that section ...
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02-02-2023, 07:00 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post osu
After osu
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Tanner Groves -- +67 ----571:15
Grant Sherfield - +62 ----699:05
Jacob Groves --- +62 ----566:58
Jalen Hill -------- +60 ----696:23
Sam Godwin ---- +22 ----378:32
CJ Noland------- +18 -----346:40
Bijan Cortes ---- +41 ----367:54
Otega Oweh ---- +17 ----140:20
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Benny Schroder - +3 -----21:50
Milos Uzan ------- -6 -----595:18
Joe Bamisile ----- -10 ----164:43
Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Benny Schroder - +7 -----15:00
Joe Bamisile ----- +2 -----06:22
Sam Godwin ---- -8 -----127:35
Otega Oweh ---- -1 ------51:15
Jacob Groves --- -16 ----181:07
Bijan Cortes ---- -25 ----167:05
CJ Noland-------- -37 ----171:29
Tanner Groves -- -40 ----212:18
Jalen Hill -------- -53 ----311:45
Milos Uzan ------ -57 ----287:18
Grant Sherfield - -64 ----305:46
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02-05-2023, 07:00 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post WVU
After WVU
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Jacob Groves --- +61 ----579:34
Tanner Groves -- +58 ----582:42
Grant Sherfield - +36 ----727:50
Jalen Hill -------- +26 ----722:22
Sam Godwin ---- +16 ----392:05
Bijan Cortes ---- +19 ----393:42
Otega Oweh ---- +10 ----161:40
CJ Noland-------- +7 -----360:12
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Benny Schroder - +3 -----25:37
Joe Bamisile ----- -22 ----184:20
Milos Uzan ------- -38 ----618:54
Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Benny Schroder - +7 -----18:47
Otega Oweh ----- -8 ------72:35
Joe Bamisile ----- -10 -----25:59
Sam Godwin ---- -14 ----141:08
Jacob Groves --- -17 ----193:43
Bijan Cortes ---- -47 ----192:53
CJ Noland-------- -48 ----185:01
Tanner Groves -- -49 ----223:45
Jalen Hill -------- -87 ----337:44
Grant Sherfield - -90 ----333:31
Milos Uzan ------ -95 ----310:54
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02-05-2023, 10:58 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post wvu
We don't have guys that play winning basketball. This is abysmal.
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02-05-2023, 11:01 PM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post wvu
Uzan last in both is not good. How many of these guys come back? Easy transfer and nil are going to kill college sports.
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02-10-2023, 11:34 AM
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Re: Season Plus / Minus post Baylor
After Baylor
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Tanner Groves -- +55 ----612:14
Jacob Groves --- +54 ----591:20
Grant Sherfield - +25 ----763:08
Jalen Hill -------- +24 ----749:41
Bijan Cortes ---- +12 ----405:42
Sam Godwin ---- +10 ----401:26
CJ Noland-------- +6 -----365:56
Yaya Keita ------- +4 -----03:24
Benny Schroder - +3 -----25:37
Otega Oweh ----- +2 ----182:58
Joe Bamisile ----- -22 ----202:29
Milos Uzan ------- -43 ----648:27
Conference Only
Name...............+/-.........MIN
Benny Schroder - +7 -----18:47
Joe Bamisile ----- -10 -----44:07
Otega Oweh ----- -16 -----93:43
Sam Godwin ---- -20 ----150:29
Jacob Groves ---- -24 ----205:29
CJ Noland-------- -49 ----190:45
Tanner Groves -- -52 ----253:17
Bijan Cortes ---- -54 ----204:53
Jalen Hill -------- -89 ----365:03
Milos Uzan ------ -100 ---340:27
Grant Sherfield - -101 ---378:49
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