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Old 04-02-2021, 09:57 AM   #26
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Terry Evens and Nolan Richardson are calling Joe's office everyday and leaving messages. LOL
He's sending them straight to voicemail so the line is free for Carlos Slim.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:03 PM   #27
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WF is right about ABD! I told you guys once he is a master thread starter. No one I know or have ever known is on his level. BigTime is close, but he’s busy playing Doctor (a real one) now and spending time with his family.

As WF said, ABD is serious about JUCO players. He believes he’s right and so do I...to a point. The days of building a team around juco recruits is over now. But there is nothing wrong with filling specific needs from time to time. Our coaches have not done a good job in identifying the best jucos available and showing them love early in the recruiting process. And, in the last few years the best juco players are on the rosters of the teams we play.

ABD is also good at making his case, more often than not on controversial topics. Thus, his threads are usually thought-provoking and interesting. He’s really good at getting some of you so riled up you’re ready to fight. I just smile and go my merry way because I know what he’s doing. Trust me, WaymanFan does, too.

Think about it! This would be a boring place without Thebigabd!
Not only am I serious about juco players, but I am 100% right on that topic...

The recipe is:

Local HS talent
Regional juco talent
Regional (Texas, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, etc) high school talent

We should have 4-6 junior college players on the roster at all times... The rest would be the best possible high school talent we can get.

If that happened, we would win 20+ games every year, be in the top 4 of the league pretty much every year, and be competitive for league championships.

Joe C needs to hire me as the recruiting czar at OU.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:09 PM   #28
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Anderson is definitely not on my radar. Heís a name from the past who rode on Nolan Richardsonís shirttail for some success of his own. I just donít see him as a good fit for OU.
Name from the past? He was named Big East Coach of the Year THIS SEASON. He hasn't worked for Nolan Richardson in like 20 years.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:11 PM   #29
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Not only am I serious about juco players, but I am 100% right on that topic...

The recipe is:

Local HS talent
Regional juco talent
Regional (Texas, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, etc) high school talent

We should have 4-6 junior college players on the roster at all times... The rest would be the best possible high school talent we can get.

If that happened, we would win 20+ games every year, be in the top 4 of the league pretty much every year, and be competitive for league championships.

Joe C needs to hire me as the recruiting czar at OU.
Or as a court jester for halftime shows.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:15 PM   #30
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Name from the past? He was named Big East Coach of the Year THIS SEASON. He hasn't worked for Nolan Richardson in like 20 years.
I still think Jay Wright is better...
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:21 PM   #31
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I will say this.... the fact that we have a job opening at OU and Mike Anderson isn't even being contacted or interviewed perplexes me.

Roots in the area
Great coach
Good recruiter
Fun system
Has been recruiting this part of the country for a long time

And Joe C doesn't even talk to him and sends a SIX YEAR contract offer to Porter Moser...

Mike Anderson has NEVER had a losing season in 18 years

Porter Moser has had 5 losing seasons in 17 years.

Anderson has a 65% win percentage.

Porter Moser has a 54% win percentage.

Anderson was above .500 in every league he coached in.

Porter was 22-50 at Illinois State, and is exactly .500 at Loyola Chicago

When Anderson was coaching mid-major basketball (UAB) he won nearly 70% of his games.... went to 3 straight NCAA Tournaments... And won nearly 70% of CUSA games...

Anderson has been to 9 NCAA Tournaments

Porter has been to 2 NCAA Tournaments

Anderson has been National Coach of the Year

Porter has never been National Coach of the Year

Anderson has been conference coach of the year 3 times

Porter has been conference coach of the year 1 time.

This is an outrage.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:32 PM   #32
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Little easier to win at Arkansas, where Anderson was fired, and Missouri than where Moser has been. Also Moser only 2 NCAA Appearances as you say, produced a Final 4 and a sweet 16 (knocking off a #1 seed Illinois)...Anderson is still waiting to make the final 4.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:41 PM   #33
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I will say this.... the fact that we have a job opening at OU and Mike Anderson isn't even being contacted or interviewed perplexes me.

Roots in the area
Great coach
Good recruiter
Fun system
Has been recruiting this part of the country for a long time

And Joe C doesn't even talk to him and sends a SIX YEAR contract offer to Porter Moser...

Mike Anderson has NEVER had a losing season in 18 years

Porter Moser has had 5 losing seasons in 17 years.

Anderson has a 65% win percentage.

Porter Moser has a 54% win percentage.

Anderson was above .500 in every league he coached in.

Porter was 22-50 at Illinois State, and is exactly .500 at Loyola Chicago

When Anderson was coaching mid-major basketball (UAB) he won nearly 70% of his games.... went to 3 straight NCAA Tournaments... And won nearly 70% of CUSA games...

Anderson has been to 9 NCAA Tournaments

Porter has been to 2 NCAA Tournaments

Anderson has been National Coach of the Year

Porter has never been National Coach of the Year

Anderson has been conference coach of the year 3 times

Porter has been conference coach of the year 1 time.

This is an outrage.
No one besides joe c and Anderson know if he has been contacted. Whatís his salary rn?
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:42 PM   #34
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Little easier to win at Arkansas, where Anderson was fired, and Missouri than where Moser has been.
How do you figure? Both teams play most of their games against similar schools. Nobody in Loyola's conference has a definite advantage over them. Can you say the same about Arkansas or Missouri?
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:47 PM   #35
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How do you figure? Both teams play most of their games against similar schools. Nobody in Loyola's conference has a definite advantage over them. Can you say the same about Arkansas or Missouri?
Mid majors usually play a hand full of p5 per year, as well. They also go against stronger programs in g5 non conference.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:57 PM   #36
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Mid majors usually play a hand full of p5 per year, as well. They also go against stronger programs in g5 non conference.
Go look at Loyola's schedule the past few seasons and tell me your comment applies to them at all. I counted about 5 teams that I'd expect them to lose to. They were not playing a bunch of tougher opponents.

They've also lost 16 conference games the last 4 seasons.
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No one besides joe c and Anderson know if he has been contacted. Whatís his salary rn?
$2.6 million at St. Johns.
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Old 04-02-2021, 02:08 PM   #38
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$2.6 million at St. Johns.
Thatís gettable. I wouldnít be upset honestly even though heís a bit older. Iíd rather have Altman if we are going 60+.
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Old 04-02-2021, 02:17 PM   #39
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How do you figure? Both teams play most of their games against similar schools. Nobody in Loyola's conference has a definite advantage over them. Can you say the same about Arkansas or Missouri?
So you think the resources, facilities and recruiting budgets are equal b/w Missouri/Arkansas vs. Loyola Chicago.
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So you think the resources, facilities and recruiting budgets are equal b/w Missouri/Arkansas vs. Loyola Chicago.
Is that what you got out of my post?
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Maybe reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, NCAA final 4 at Loyola and Sweet 16 in last 4 years, Arkansas and Missouri under Anderson never came close to those results, Arkansas and Missouri would to some appear to have more resources.

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Maybe reading comprehension isnít your strong suit
I'd probably tell you to look in the mirror, b/c that isn't what I said.
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I'd probably tell you to look in the mirror, b/c that isn't what I said.
Just like you did w/ my original point about ability to win at schools w/ more resources, to further illustrate the SEC’s average team basketball budget is $10.5 million while the Mo.Valley’s budget is $2.9 million....yet Moser has had more success than Anderson in the NCAA tournament, while in most people’s eyes Anderson has been at better programs w/ more resources

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Just like you did w/ my original point about resources, to further illustrate the SECís average team basketball budget is $10.5 million while the Mo.Valleyís budget is $2.9 million....yet Moser has had more success than Anderson in the NCAA tournament, while in most peopleís eyes Anderson has been at better programs w/ more resources
I'm comparing what Moser did at Loyola against LIKE COMPETITION, to what Anderson did at Mizzou/Ark against LIKE COMPETITION.

Recruiting budgets and all that jazz don't matter as much when comparing to your peers.

As for the NCAA Tournament success, if you want to read a bunch into that, you are more than welcome. We all know anything can happen in that tournament. You don't see coaches knocking down walls to sign the ORU coach do you? Tony Bennett is no more a bad coach for losing as a #1 to a #16 than Moser is a good coach for beating a #1, or making a FF.
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I'm a big Mike Anderson fan. I was always hesitant because I felt like his eyes were always on Fayetteville. I would've been thrilled if he'd been the one to replace Kelvin.
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Just like you did w/ my original point about resources, to further illustrate the SEC’s average team basketball budget is $10.5 million while the Mo.Valley’s budget is $2.9 million....yet Moser has had more success than Anderson in the NCAA tournament, while in most people’s eyes Anderson has been at better programs w/ more resources
Ok.... so you want to value Moser because of 2 seasons in a 17 year career? Those being the only 2 seasons he's been in the NCAA Tournament by the way.

We don't care about his conference seasons in the Missouri Valley where he was:

4-14
4-14
6-12
1-17
5-11
4-14
7-11

We don't care that 30% of his total seasons was a losing season? (Anderson has 0% of his seasons being a losing season)

We don't care that he's finished last place in the Missouri Valley 4 times?

I don't like this.... AT ALL. Red flags are all over the place.
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Old 04-02-2021, 03:21 PM   #47
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Mike Anderson, who is 61, has compiled an average conference finish in Power 5 play of 6th place. His teams have finished 2nd once, 3rd twice, 4th twice, 5th three times, 6th once, 7th once, 8th twice, 9th twice and 10th once (with some ties thrown in).

He won Big East Coach of the Year by finishing tied for 4th place at 10-9. I have no idea why that was sufficient for him to win that award, but similar results would have--and have had--posters here calling for Lon Kruger's job.

Anderson has avoided a losing overall record, but his teams have finished at .500 twice overall. And in Power 5 conference play, which many on this board have insisted is what really counts, they have finished .500 twice and below .500 five times -- this is over the span of 15 seasons, so nearly half the time in Power 5 conference play, he's finished at .500 or below.
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Old 04-02-2021, 03:28 PM   #48
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Condolences, abd. Look on the bright side. Anderson got his dream job at Arkansas who had an identical NCAA Tournament record as OU going into this season. He coached 8 years at that dream job and won only TWO NCAA Tournament games - the same number Lon Kruger won the past two times. All those other things aside, two big wins in 8 years at his dream job was the reason he had no chance at the OU job.
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Old 04-02-2021, 08:39 PM   #50
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I was a Mike Anderson fan about 15 years ago. He did some good things at UAB and I thought he was going to win at Missouri. Unfortunately for him, he didnít win anything at Missouri and then won nothing at Arkansas. Heís done nothing in the last 15 years for anyone to believe he would be successful at OU.

I donít understand why anyone would suggest he would win here any more than capel or Kruger have done in the last 15 years. What a waste of time talking about Mike Anderson.
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