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Old 04-01-2021, 09:49 AM   #26
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I don't get the love for Hill. He's solid, but not irreplaceable. Kind of positionless. Best suited to play the wing, but doesn't really shoot it well enough. Is kind of an undersized stretch 4, but REALLY undersized, and again, doesn't really shoot it well enough.

I'm kind of meh on him. I mean, we need bodies next year, but I don't think he's the difference in us winning vs losing games over the next few years.
When he's on it's like "where have you been,"but otherwise he's rather inconsistent like a host of other players.
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Old 04-01-2021, 10:07 AM   #27
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I'm not sure I'd blame this on Lon leaving. Given how little he played, Lon leaving might have helped our chances of keeping him. Bye.
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Old 04-01-2021, 10:14 AM   #28
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Losing a body at this point hurts, but players on a roster that plays should be on the roster based more on "potential" or upside, especially after being in the program for two years. To paraphrase Stoops about Kabba, "I think we can find someone to get us 3 points and two rebounds a game".

Whether Lon stayed or not, the roster turnover is probably not that much different. But at this point it is what it is and it is more important to get the coaching hire right more than hiring someone because we're concerned about players leaving or not having choices in the portal.

Next year will be rough regardless, but I would rather take the hit now. It is too important for someone to bring energy, enthusiasm, and excitement for the future of our program more than someone to get us by for 2-4 years.

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Old 04-01-2021, 10:19 AM   #29
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it's the first offseason move that makes us better.

i wish him the absolute best.
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Old 04-01-2021, 11:01 AM   #30
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it's the first offseason move that makes us better.

i wish him the absolute best.
this is a poor take
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Old 04-01-2021, 11:13 AM   #31
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I don't get the love for Hill. He's solid, but not irreplaceable. Kind of positionless. Best suited to play the wing, but doesn't really shoot it well enough. Is kind of an undersized stretch 4, but REALLY undersized, and again, doesn't really shoot it well enough.

I'm kind of meh on him. I mean, we need bodies next year, but I don't think he's the difference in us winning vs losing games over the next few years.
Jalen Hill is the kind of player you want to keep. Plays his butt off, rebounds with a passion, defends every position, does the small things that make your team better, and doesn't pout when things aren't going his way. He's a ball player ... and a tremendous athlete.

I think you'll see a MAJOR bump in his contributions next year on the offensive end. He's got a solid jump shot and improved around the basket as the year went on.

If he transfers, he'll go to a good team and be a critical cog in a very good season or he'll go to a smaller conference team and have numbers that will make us sad he left.
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Old 04-01-2021, 11:24 AM   #32
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Jalen Hill is the kind of player you want to keep. Plays his butt off, rebounds with a passion, defends every position, does the small things that make your team better, and doesn't pout when things aren't going his way. He's a ball player ... and a tremendous athlete.

I think you'll see a MAJOR bump in his contributions next year on the offensive end. He's got a solid jump shot and improved around the basket as the year went on.

If he transfers, he'll go to a good team and be a critical cog in a very good season or he'll go to a smaller conference team and have numbers that will make us sad he left.
these are my feelings as well ..
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Old 04-01-2021, 11:24 AM   #33
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this is a poor take
mmm, not really. sorry i sound like a ****. but whoever comes in will be a massive upgrade.
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Old 04-01-2021, 11:57 AM   #34
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I do not want to lose Jalen “Johnnie Gilbert” Hill.
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Old 04-01-2021, 11:59 AM   #35
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WSU forward Trey Wade entered the portal this week - good defender and an OK shooter, but he can definitely finish at/around the rim.
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Old 04-01-2021, 12:08 PM   #36
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I do not want to lose Jalen “Johnnie Gilbert” Hill.
those players could not be more different in their skill sets /positions
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Old 04-01-2021, 01:18 PM   #37
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Vic was given every chance. He cant finish around the rim. But blame lon.
Absolutely. At some point, the player can only be coached so far.... the player has to get better through his own effort and repetition. I never saw much improvement from him over his two seasons here.

We won't have an issue replacing his production, but good luck to the kid.
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Old 04-01-2021, 01:32 PM   #38
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WSU forward Trey Wade entered the portal this week - good defender and an OK shooter, but he can definitely finish at/around the rim.
Yea and a good rebounder. If he decides to go to a P5 school, he could be a very good depth piece.
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Old 04-01-2021, 01:38 PM   #39
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I would love to get Trey Wade at OU... I remember when we played them he had like 15 rebounds. Good athlete and solid player. Saw him play against TU a time or two as well in person.
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Old 04-01-2021, 01:50 PM   #40
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those players could not be more different in their skill sets /positions
Except their both glue guys that do the little things every program benefits from and most people overlook.
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Old 04-01-2021, 01:50 PM   #41
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I’m a Lon fan but he did a poor job with Vic IMO. Vic is going to be really good before he is done. This is a huge loss.
I wish the young man all the best. But like CoachTalk said, Vic had plenty of opportunities for success. Kelvin used to say that most players make their biggest leap between Year 1 and Year 2...After two years, I just don’t see a huge jump at this point for Vic. Hopefully, he transfers to a smaller school and plays well.
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Old 04-01-2021, 05:20 PM   #42
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When he's on it's like "where have you been,"but otherwise he's rather inconsistent like a host of other players.
He reminds me of Tyler Neal. You can see the potential, sometimes it pops, but overall leaves you hoping for more.
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Old 04-03-2021, 05:25 PM   #43
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Agreed. I don't care what they look like getting off the bus, I want some guys that know the game and have been playing since they were 5.
Yup
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Old 04-03-2021, 05:31 PM   #44
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I’m a Lon fan but he did a poor job with Vic IMO. Vic is going to be really good before he is done. This is a huge loss.
Meh. Athlete that doesn't know how to play basketball.. no loss IMO
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Going to unlv
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