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Old 04-07-2021, 12:15 PM   #51
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Oh, I would say plenty of eyes blinked on his shooting from deep. It came up often on this board.
Lot of reaves hate up until pretty recently. I expect his 3pt percentage to go up pretty significantly when he plays pro.

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Old 04-07-2021, 12:16 PM   #52
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Oh, I would say plenty of eyes blinked on his shooting from deep. It came up often on this board.
Blinks were definitely had
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Old 04-07-2021, 12:20 PM   #53
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Lot of reaves hate up until pretty recently. I expect his 3pt percentage to go up pretty significantly when he plays pro.

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Depends on where the 3pt line in Spain. How does the FIBA line differ from the college and NBA line?
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Depends on where the 3pt line in Spain. How does the FIBA line differ from the college and NBA line?
You're just wrong about this.
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Old 04-07-2021, 12:27 PM   #55
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Depends on where the 3pt line in Spain. How does the FIBA line differ from the college and NBA line?
Not sure but it isn’t as deep as the juco 3pt line. As you know, the juco 3 pt line extends an additional 3 feet outside the nba’s.
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Old 04-07-2021, 12:39 PM   #56
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Why do I get flashbacks to Capel when I see Indian Hills being mentioned?

FYI, I am not comparing Capel to Moser. I just don't want to see some of the rosters we saw during the Capel Era.
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Old 04-07-2021, 01:30 PM   #57
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lol, how many 23 year old, 5th year senior types actually significantly improve their 3 point shooting after moving on to pro ball?

I mean, it may go up a little just due to the fact that some shots have to go in, but I don't see it. Don't see him sticking in the NBA either. He MIGHT get lucky and get to hang on at the end of a bench, or in the G League for a few years, but no way he ever contributes meaningfully to an NBA team.
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Old 04-07-2021, 01:44 PM   #58
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lol, how many 23 year old, 5th year senior types actually significantly improve their 3 point shooting after moving on to pro ball?
Unless your name is Demar Derozan (or maybe Ben Simmons), it's never too late to develop a 3-ball. Just ask Jason Kidd. There are so many guys like Lonzo Ball and Julius Randle that developed a 3-ball several years into their NBA career.
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Old 04-07-2021, 01:50 PM   #59
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Unless your name is Demar Derozan (or maybe Ben Simmons), it's never too late to develop a 3-ball. Just ask Jason Kidd. There are so many guys like Lonzo Ball and Julius Randle that developed a 3-ball several years into their NBA career.
Good post. The list is long and distinguished. And those guys you mentioned didn’t shoot over 40% in their first couple years of college like reaves did as more of a spot shooter. Yea I know the line moved back. Range isn’t a problem for him, though.
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Old 04-07-2021, 01:52 PM   #60
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He's shown he can shoot. Better off the catch than off the dribble.

He's an elite pick and roll guy, elite finisher, strong ball handler. Great court vision, exceptional free throw shooter, good size, strong rebounder, tough, and size and anticipation means he can defend well enough.

Goran Dragic, Cam Payne, Dejounte Murray ... all good comparisons.
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Old 04-07-2021, 02:29 PM   #61
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lol, how many 23 year old, 5th year senior types actually significantly improve their 3 point shooting after moving on to pro ball?
Blake Griffin certainly has done so (though he was not a fifth year senior, his improvement came well after the five-year mark).
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Old 04-07-2021, 02:35 PM   #62
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He's shown he can shoot. Better off the catch than off the dribble.

He's an elite pick and roll guy, elite finisher, strong ball handler. Great court vision, exceptional free throw shooter, good size, strong rebounder, tough, and size and anticipation means he can defend well enough.

Goran Dragic, Cam Payne, Dejounte Murray ... all good comparisons.
Not saying he'll be as successful as these guys, but he's got similar skill set entering the league (and better size).
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Old 04-07-2021, 02:55 PM   #63
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lol, how many 23 year old, 5th year senior types actually significantly improve their 3 point shooting after moving on to pro ball?

I mean, it may go up a little just due to the fact that some shots have to go in, but I don't see it. Don't see him sticking in the NBA either. He MIGHT get lucky and get to hang on at the end of a bench, or in the G League for a few years, but no way he ever contributes meaningfully to an NBA team.
The vast majority of NBA players are far better shooters than they were in college. There are all kinds of guys at every position who drastically improve their shooting throughout their career.
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Old 04-07-2021, 03:00 PM   #64
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To add, FT% is the number one thing scouts look at to see if a person's shooting will translate to the NBA. Austin will be fine.
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Old 04-07-2021, 03:11 PM   #65
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In a 10 year study of NBA 2nd round picks, the following was discovered:

26.1% never made the NBA
47.9% played less than 3 years
2.4% became All-Stars or made All-NBA teams
16.7% played at least 3 years

The key number being that 74% of guys like Austin Reaves (college stars, older college players who typically go in the 2nd round) either don't make it, or play less than 3 years, which is exactly what WTSooner said.

Hopefully he does well though.
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Old 04-07-2021, 03:55 PM   #67
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The vast majority of NBA players are far better shooters than they were in college. There are all kinds of guys at every position who drastically improve their shooting throughout their career.
Even bad NBA shooters are actually really good, for some it just doesn't translate to NBA games for whatever reason. I played with Desmond Mason a couple years after he retired when he was working out at the Chesapeake Energy company employee gym and you woulda thought he was Ray Allen. Granted the 3pt line was collegiate distance.
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Patrick Tape

Started at Columbia, then played at Duke for one season. Entered the portal a couple of days ago.
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6’11” sophomore Joel Soriano, who averaged 10.4 points & 9.2 rebounds for #Fordham University, has entered the transfer portal. He played for @PSACardinals , @step_basketball & St. Thomas More (CT). Will be a HM recruit
Sounds like OU is making Soriano a priority.


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Sounds like OU is making Soriano a priority.

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6’11”
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Reel him in coach!!
Watching his highlights he definitely knows how to post up, throw a shoulder and shoot the hook.
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Watching his highlights he definitely knows how to post up, throw a shoulder and shoot the hook.
What's a hook?
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Sounds like OU is making Soriano a priority.

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Maybe he surprises, but not going to get my hopes up that Soriano comes in and makes an immediate impact. 10ppg & 9rpg on a 2-12 Fordham team. Also bad FT%, turnover ratio, foul trouble, & not a great shot blocker.
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Maybe he surprises, but not going to get my hopes up that Soriano comes in and makes an immediate impact. 10ppg & 9rpg on a 2-12 Fordham team. Also bad FT%, turnover ratio, foul trouble, & not a great shot blocker.
I’d rather have Tape I think. He had better numbers at Columbia.

What year is Soriano?
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