Joe Bam gets his waiver

StoopsBros · 08-17-2022, 12:15 PM

about time

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BCSooners · 08-17-2022, 12:17 PM

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about time

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Expected but still great news!

BoulderSooner · 08-17-2022, 12:24 PM

and boom OU is set

StoopsBros · 08-17-2022, 12:30 PM

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not Bamisile-related but...

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Getting excited for the season.

SoonerBounce13 · 08-17-2022, 02:08 PM

dumb

BoulderSooner · 08-17-2022, 02:09 PM

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dumb

what is?

AdaSooner · 08-17-2022, 02:19 PM

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not Bamisile-related but...

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Getting excited for the season.

Me too!

This is a very deep team. I think Rothstein’s backcourt starting five is a nice upgrade over last year’s team, with at least two players coming off of the bench who have the potential to start at some point. If our bigs can at least hold their own against most teams, this could be an exciting year.

StoopsBros · 08-17-2022, 03:21 PM

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SoonerBounce13 · 08-18-2022, 08:05 AM

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what is?

That he got a waiver

WichitaSooner · 08-18-2022, 08:09 AM

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what is?

The truly dumb thing is all the people upset about this kid and others being allowed to play college basketball without sitting out a year due to old rules.

BoulderSooner · 08-18-2022, 08:18 AM

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That he got a waiver

lol ok

SoonerBounce13 · 08-18-2022, 08:42 AM

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The truly dumb thing is all the people upset about this kid and others being allowed to play college basketball without sitting out a year due to old rules.

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lol ok

Sorry, but just because I'm an OU fan doesn't mean I can't look at things objectively.

Without the "old rules" college basketball will go to sh!t. Atleast to me and almost everyone I talk to in real life. I'm not interested in a roster overhaul every year. Part of what makes college sports great is seeing a team built over several years and getting to know the players. I have no connection with the majority of our roster. What little advantage college bball had over the NBA is now gone. The unlimited transfers is a much bigger problem than NIL

BCSooners · 08-18-2022, 09:37 AM

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Sorry, but just because I'm an OU fan doesn't mean I can't look at things objectively.

Without the "old rules" college basketball will go to sh!t. Atleast to me and almost everyone I talk to in real life. I'm not interested in a roster overhaul every year. Part of what makes college sports great is seeing a team built over several years and getting to know the players. I have no connection with the majority of our roster. What little advantage college bball had over the NBA is now gone. The unlimited transfers is a much bigger problem than NIL

It's looking like it will stay this way for a period of time. The NCAA pretty much said they'll let anyone transfer as many times as they want, once again showing their usefulness.

I think there will be another organization take over the NCAA within 10 years if things don't change.

WichitaSooner · 08-18-2022, 09:39 AM

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Sorry, but just because I'm an OU fan doesn't mean I can't look at things objectively.

Without the "old rules" college basketball will go to sh!t. Atleast to me and almost everyone I talk to in real life. I'm not interested in a roster overhaul every year. Part of what makes college sports great is seeing a team built over several years and getting to know the players. I have no connection with the majority of our roster. What little advantage college bball had over the NBA is now gone. The unlimited transfers is a much bigger problem than NIL

How can you claim to be objective when you have no idea what the circumstances are surrounding his waiver? It’s one of the most frustrating parts of society today; everyone thinks they are in position to judge things even when they have no knowledge of the relevant facts.

And unlimited transfers don’t exist. Yep, lots of kids are getting waivers, but the reason waivers are required is because the rule currently only allows for one free transfer.

SoonerBounce13 · 08-18-2022, 09:42 AM

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How can you claim to be objective when you have no idea what the circumstances are surrounding his waiver? It’s one of the most frustrating parts of society today; everyone thinks they are in position to judge things even when they have no knowledge of the relevant facts.

And unlimited transfers don’t exist. Yep, lots of kids are getting waivers, but the reason waivers are required is because the rule currently only allows for one free transfer.

lol ok

I can claim to be objective because even though this is great for OU, it is bad for college basketball.
Feeling excited about this is just dirty to me because it's hypocritical to complain about the unlimited transfers but be happy when it benefits OU.

WTSooner · 08-18-2022, 09:44 AM

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That he got a waiver

Agreed!

BCSooners · 08-18-2022, 09:45 AM

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How can you claim to be objective when you have no idea what the circumstances are surrounding his waiver? It’s one of the most frustrating parts of society today; everyone thinks they are in position to judge things even when they have no knowledge of the relevant facts.

And unlimited transfers don’t exist. Yep, lots of kids are getting waivers, but the reason waivers are required is because the rule currently only allows for one free transfer.

I'm excited Bam got his waiver, but unlimited transfers are happening. They have to fill out paperwork and some other stuff, but they are all getting approved.

CoachTalk · 08-18-2022, 09:55 AM

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I'm excited Bam got his waiver, but unlimited transfers are happening. They have to fill out paperwork and some other stuff, but they are all getting approved.

Headed to HS soon... along with NIL.

BCSooners · 08-18-2022, 09:57 AM

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Headed to HS soon... along with NIL.

OSSAA is just as useless. Show up with a lawyer & you'll get approved in oklahoma high school.

I've heard there's been some big moves (especially around Tulsa), but can't find anyone who knows who it is and where they're going.

CoachTalk · 08-18-2022, 10:07 AM

ask. most have settled. Victory added union kid back, who is on his 4th school in 2 years. Owasso added rejoices best. Catoosa added a one at least.

WichitaSooner · 08-18-2022, 10:08 AM

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Sorry, but just because I'm an OU fan doesn't mean I can't look at things objectively.

Without the "old rules" college basketball will go to sh!t. Atleast to me and almost everyone I talk to in real life. I'm not interested in a roster overhaul every year. Part of what makes college sports great is seeing a team built over several years and getting to know the players. I have no connection with the majority of our roster. What little advantage college bball had over the NBA is now gone. The unlimited transfers is a much bigger problem than NIL

Did you cheer for the team and follow college sports back when OU and other schools relied heavily on JUCOs who were on campus for two years, max? How many of the guys on the 1988 team did you watch develop over several years? A couple JUCOs and a D-1 transfer in the starting five, and plenty of JUCOs on the bench. Somehow, we all managed to survive that affront to humanity.

I sure hope coaches are doing a better job than fans adapting to the new reality. And we will have five guys on this year’s squad who started or played significant roles last season. That makes for a nice mix with the handful of new guys who are likely to contribute.

SoonerBounce13 · 08-18-2022, 10:30 AM

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Did you cheer for the team and follow college sports back when OU and other schools relied heavily on JUCOs who were on campus for two years, max? How many of the guys on the 1988 team did you watch develop over several years? A couple JUCOs and a D-1 transfer in the starting five, and plenty of JUCOs on the bench. Somehow, we all managed to survive that affront to humanity.

I sure hope coaches are doing a better job than fans adapting to the new reality. And we will have five guys on this year’s squad who started or played significant roles last season. That makes for a nice mix with the handful of new guys who are likely to contribute.

Seeing how I was born in 85....no, I don't recall watching the 1988 team.
I'm suring coaches are adapting fine...but that doesn't mean they like it any better than fans do. But it is their life and livelihood. I watch sports for enjoyment. And I don't find starting with a new roster every year enjoyable and I don't think it is good in the long run for the kids

skyvue · 08-18-2022, 10:45 AM

I'm not crazy about the new (barely) limited transfers, either, but as long as these are the rules, I can without hesitation celebrate an OU player getting the same consideration other program's players are receiving. There's nothing remotely hypocritical about it. You proceed according to the rules as they stand, even as you might hope those rules will change in the future.

CoachTalk · 08-18-2022, 11:16 AM

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Agreed!

I'm shocked....

WaymanFan · 08-18-2022, 02:44 PM

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Did you cheer for the team and follow college sports back when OU and other schools relied heavily on JUCOs who were on campus for two years, max? How many of the guys on the 1988 team did you watch develop over several years? A couple JUCOs and a D-1 transfer in the starting five, and plenty of JUCOs on the bench. Somehow, we all managed to survive that affront to humanity.

I sure hope coaches are doing a better job than fans adapting to the new reality. And we will have five guys on this year’s squad who started or played significant roles last season. That makes for a nice mix with the handful of new guys who are likely to contribute.

I'm kind of torn here myself. Your comparison, though, is not applicable. I am old enough to remember those Billy Tubbs teams. For the most part, when we got a JUCO, we could count on him for two years. We didn't have to worry about him bolting for a better opportunity after one season. Even with all the JUCO players, we didn't have 7-8 new bodies every year. The 1988 team was the best OU team ever - and we got 4 JUCO top-10 players before the season...but it wasn't a new roster. 4 of the 5 starters on that team were on the 1987 team. I think that was SoonerBounce's point. We got to know about the players because they were there for 2,3, or 4 years.