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Old 12-14-2019, 08:35 PM   #151
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All wins are good all losses are bad
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:00 PM   #152
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Can't wait for the, "But it was a road game!" and "But we played hard!" takes.
now listen ... you told me to respect how you process a loss. and that's fine. I have. But you must do the same. you just keep moaning and complaining and I will process it my own way.
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:02 PM   #153
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now listen ... you told me to respect how you process a loss. and that's fine. I have. But you must do the same. you just keep moaning and complaining and I will process it my own way.
I didn't tell you that, you must have me confused with someone else, but okay, fair enough.
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:58 PM   #154
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We have little to no presence inside. It boggles the mind that we can never have any strength or toughness down low.
We don't recruit basketball players down low. We recruit athletes in search of "rim protection", which is the most overrated aspect of defensive basketball. Couple that with our inability to develop anything that remotely resembles an inside presence and you get a result like today (-17 on the boards).

We can scheme around it most nights, but it's hard to win on the road, especially in conference play, when you get smoked on the boards.
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Old 12-14-2019, 10:48 PM   #155
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We don't recruit basketball players down low. We recruit athletes in search of "rim protection", which is the most overrated aspect of defensive basketball. Couple that with our inability to develop anything that remotely resembles an inside presence and you get a result like today (-17 on the boards).

We can scheme around it most nights, but it's hard to win on the road, especially in conference play, when you get smoked on the boards.
YES!!!!!

We recruit far too many athletes with limited skill sets. Those guys are all fine and dandy if you have guys that can actually play. But we have too many of them. We haven't been a good rebounding team in a number of years.

And Bieniemy. My goodness. smh
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:31 PM   #156
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YES!!!!!

We recruit far too many athletes with limited skill sets. Those guys are all fine and dandy if you have guys that can actually play. But we have too many of them. We haven't been a good rebounding team in a number of years.

And Bieniemy. My goodness. smh
That's an excellent point. It's all well and good to have athletes right and left ... but inside presence still matters. I actually thought Brady was doing a pretty good job. But we're really hurting in the paint.
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Old 12-14-2019, 11:39 PM   #157
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This is going to be a theme all year... They will lose games when they can't rebound. I wouldn't have expected a small WSU team to beat OU that bad on the glass, but it is OUs achilles heel.

Trey Wade had 15 rebounds for them and he is 6'6''.... OU just doesn't have anyone who can control the glass, and hasn't since Spangler.
Not sure I'd label them small. They have four guys they rotate at the five who have very good size, and rebounding is basically the foundation of their program. They got destroyed on the glass against West Virginia but have dominated us and OSU since. That said, it was painful to watch in person tonight. We might have made a conscious decision not to go for offensive boards in order to eliminate transition offense for them, but our defensive rebounding was inexcusable.
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Old 12-15-2019, 02:34 AM   #158
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This is going to be a theme all year... They will lose games when they can't rebound. I wouldn't have expected a small WSU team to beat OU that bad on the glass, but it is OUs achilles heel.

Trey Wade had 15 rebounds for them and he is 6'6''.... OU just doesn't have anyone who can control the glass, and hasn't since Spangler.
I thought OU was the smaller team
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:04 AM   #159
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Wait wait wait

What’s the story with Marshall’s daughter?

I missed that!
Supposedly (and it's a pretty strong rumor) Reaves was caught in bed with Marshall's daughter, or something to that effect. Though, it's fairly common knowledge that Marshall's daughter has made the rounds with WSU basketball players...tons of them. Markus McDuffie was one of them.

You know, I was at Allen Field House for the 3 OT thriller and not once did a KU fan tell me to sit down and shut up. Not once. This is now two OU vs. WSU games in a row at Intrust where multiple WSU fans have told me to sit down and shut up. Last time, after Trae had drilled one of his multiple threes. This time, I kind of got tired of them booing Reaves, so after he made a three in the 2nd half I stood up and clapped and yelled "Go Austin". In that instance, the man in front of me turned around and told me to be quiet because I was hurting his wife's ears. It's not like just prior to that and just after that, the crowd was so loud that my ears were ringing. As a graduate of WSU, I am honestly ashamed of the fan base. For a split second, I was telling myself I would never go back. However, I'll be there in two years cheering for OU just as loud if no louder. Screw WSU. I was very gracious leaving Intrust two years ago, unlike WSU fans leaving Chesapeake the year prior. In two years when OU wins, I won't be as quiet leaving that arena. You'll probably hear me yelling "Boomer" all the way to the car.

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I thought OU was the smaller team
We were
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Old 12-15-2019, 03:23 PM   #161
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We aren't really small. We just have a lot of guys that are around 6-6 to 6-9 or so.
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Old 12-15-2019, 03:31 PM   #162
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How big is the WSU kid that grabbed 15 boards? 6'6, right? Not exactly big.
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:54 PM   #163
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That was WSU’s championship game. Doolittle needed to have 30 with the massive mismatch he had. Reaves & Bienemy were bad, bench needed more time. Not too worried about this game, feel like OU would beat them by 10+ later in the year.
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Old 12-15-2019, 06:53 PM   #164
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That was WSU’s championship game. Doolittle needed to have 30 with the massive mismatch he had. Reaves & Bienemy were bad, bench needed more time. Not too worried about this game, feel like OU would beat them by 10+ later in the year.
I like your optimism. I don't know that I'd go quite that far ... WSU has several newcomers, too, and I think they'll also get better. Seem like two fairly evenly matched teams although I would give us a slight edge over the course of the season. I really think the game came down to one thing, and that is rebounding. But JB absolutely needs to snap out of his funk. I wasn't surprised Reaves struggled offensively. Wish he wouldn't have forced a couple shots in the second half but I guess that's to be expected given the circumstances.
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Old 12-15-2019, 07:25 PM   #165
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I like your optimism. I don't know that I'd go quite that far ... WSU has several newcomers, too, and I think they'll also get better. Seem like two fairly evenly matched teams although I would give us a slight edge over the course of the season. I really think the game came down to one thing, and that is rebounding. But JB absolutely needs to snap out of his funk. I wasn't surprised Reaves struggled offensively. Wish he wouldn't have forced a couple shots in the second half but I guess that's to be expected given the circumstances.
I wouldn't be concerned at all if this was an outlier performance, but we've been trending this way for several games now. North Texas also outrebounded us and it took a great performance by Doolittle to keep us from having an embarrassing loss on our resume.
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Old 12-16-2019, 11:11 AM   #166
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YES!!!!!

We recruit far too many athletes with limited skill sets. Those guys are all fine and dandy if you have guys that can actually play. But we have too many of them. We haven't been a good rebounding team in a number of years.

And Bieniemy. My goodness. smh
I believe everyone thought that Kuath was going to be the inside presence we needed this year which would have afforded Garang and Issanza the ability to be the athletic projects they were brought in to be. But Kuath hasn't lived up to that yet, and didn't even set foot on the floor against WSU. Which has thrown Vic into more of a role than he would have ultimately had as a Freshman.

Bieniemy is in his own head. You can see it with every missed shot. Head goes down in disappointment and heads back on defense.

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