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Old 12-07-2021, 07:39 AM   #1
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Default Weekly Polls thread updated week 11

TEAM-----AP------Coaches----BPI-----NET-----RPI----KenPom-----Sagarin
BU---------2----------2---------7--------6-------40--------3-------------4
UT---------7----------11--------17------16-------49-------14-----------15
KU---------8----------7---------5-------13-------27--------5-------------3
ISU-------17---------19--------59------21-------37-------65------------62
OU--------31---------38--------39------38-------44-------41-----------32
TT---------38---------29--------20------37-------72-------19-----------25
WVU------NR---------NR--------37------74------86--------48-----------46
osu--------NR---------NR-------42------62-------73-------45-----------44
TCU-------NR---------NR-------65-----108-------74-------82-----------90
KSU-------NR---------NR-------74------63------160-------62-----------81

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Old 12-07-2021, 08:29 AM   #2
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Default Re: Weekly Polls thread Week 5

Here's the average of those polls:

BU - 9
KU - 9
UT - 18
TT - 34
OU - 38
ISU - 40

Those are the probably ncaa tournament teams in the big 12.
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Old 12-07-2021, 09:06 AM   #3
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Here's the average of those polls:

BU - 9
KU - 9
UT - 18
TT - 34
OU - 38
ISU - 40

Those are the probably ncaa tournament teams in the big 12.
Not saying they deserve it, but they are not getting much love overall.
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Old 12-07-2021, 09:31 AM   #4
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Not saying they deserve it, but they are not getting much love overall.
They're getting a lot of love from human polls, but not as much from SOS and efficiency-based polls. They're SOS is 309 at kenpom and 311 at sagarin. One of the statistically worst schedules in the nation so far.
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Old 12-07-2021, 01:48 PM   #5
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We dropped four spots in the NET overnight, undoubtedly due to Florida’s awful loss. But with Arky, Auburn, and the Big 12 slate still to come, we will have plenty of chances to climb if we win enough games.
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Old 12-07-2021, 06:46 PM   #6
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I like seeing ISU in the polls almost as much as I like WV being out of them.
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Old 12-14-2021, 07:38 AM   #7
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TEAM-----AP------Coaches----BPI-----NET-----RPI----KenPom-----Sagarin
BU---------1----------1---------6--------2-------18--------1-------------1
KU---------7----------7---------4--------5-------16--------3-------------2
ISU-------11---------11--------49------17-------34-------50------------48
UT--------17---------17--------15------23-------57-------16------------18
TT---------25---------24--------18------19------156------14------------20
OU--------29---------31--------33------38-------50-------36-----------32
WVU------32---------37--------31------56-------64-------44-----------36
osu--------NR---------NR-------43------61-------74-------49-----------47
TCU-------NR---------NR-------55------63-------31-------66-----------73
KSU-------NR---------NR-------80------96------193-------71-----------83
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Old 12-14-2021, 08:43 AM   #8
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Default Re: Weekly Polls thread updated week 6

Updated Averages:

BU - 4
KU - 6
UT - 20
ISU - 31
OU - 36
TT - 39
WVU - 43

Going to have a chance to really create a resume in conference play. So many good teams in the Big 12 this year.
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Old 12-14-2021, 10:06 AM   #9
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We have a good team and I think at least a top 25 team. We do have weaknesses:

1) We a little undersized in the middle.

2) We have one really consistent outside shooters and when he is cold we suffer. We need someone else to emerge. Jacob seems to have the ability but he has really struggled. Cortes has the rep but he has to pull the trigger. We have to get more from the bench.

3) When a team with quick guards penetrate we seem to lack the ability to stop them from fairly easy baskets.

But, we do have a new coach with new players. I think we will imporve all the way up to March. Our defense will probably be the best in the conference. Our players really seem to have bought in and eventually that will show up in the won loss column.

We have had two really bad stretches resulting in the two losses. Think where we would be had we won those two games.

Our starting 5
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Old 12-14-2021, 01:02 PM   #10
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I agree with everything SoonerinKC, except that we might have the best defense in the conference. Baylor and Texas Tech are better defensive teams than us, hands-down.

We don't have the athletic presence in the middle that those teams have and lack a little defensive savvy (and certainly perimeter size) on the bench.
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Old 12-16-2021, 04:15 PM   #11
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Big disparity between ISU's rank and what the computers think of them
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Old 12-16-2021, 04:37 PM   #12
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I agree with everything SoonerinKC, except that we might have the best defense in the conference. Baylor and Texas Tech are better defensive teams than us, hands-down.

We don't have the athletic presence in the middle that those teams have and lack a little defensive savvy (and certainly perimeter size) on the bench.
think ya meant SoonerinNC...lol...no biggie
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Big disparity between ISU's rank and what the computers think of them
Strength of schedule is horrific.
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Old 12-20-2021, 12:44 PM   #14
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26th in the current AP Poll
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Old 12-20-2021, 07:40 PM   #15
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TEAM-----AP------Coaches----BPI-----NET-----RPI----KenPom-----Sagarin
BU---------1----------1---------5--------2-------20--------2-------------2
KU---------7----------7---------7--------7-------11--------4-------------4
ISU--------9----------8--------40-------14-------43-------45-----------41
UT--------16---------17--------16------20-------56-------16------------19
TT---------25---------25--------20------30------159------21------------26
OU--------26---------30--------34------41-------63-------33-----------32
WVU------27---------29--------31------39-------33-------42-----------36
osu--------38---------NR-------47------71-------77-------52-----------42
TCU-------NR---------NR-------55------61-------30-------62-----------67
KSU-------NR---------NR-------74------80------186-------66-----------81
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It’s great that the teams at the bottom are so much better than last season. Once conference starts, their computer rankings won’t drop much since they won’t have any chances for bad losses. That helps all the rest of the teams, because losing to a KSU won’t hurt nearly as much as it did last year.
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Old 12-28-2021, 01:53 PM   #17
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Default Weekly Polls thread updated week 8

TEAM-----AP------Coaches----BPI-----NET-----RPI----KenPom-----Sagarin
BU---------1----------1---------3--------1-------23--------2-------------2
KU---------6----------6---------9--------7--------9--------5-------------3
ISU--------8----------8--------39-------17-------55-------45-----------45
UT--------17---------18--------18-------20-------65-------21-----------22
TT---------25---------25-------19-------22------131-------19-----------25
OU--------27---------30--------31------39-------73-------34-----------32
WVU------28---------26--------30------36-------32-------41-----------35
TCU-------NR---------NR-------43------56-------46-------59------------60
osu-------NR---------NR--------48------76-------81-------51-----------46
KSU-------NR---------NR-------77------86------181-------68-----------82
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kind of surprised we are ranked in the 30s across the board. We have a really good resume
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kind of surprised we are ranked in the 30s across the board. We have a really good resume
We’ve played some pretty bad teams and didn’t perform great against those teams, especially offensively. That’s holding us back.
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kind of surprised we are ranked in the 30s across the board. We have a really good resume
We haven’t beaten anyone in the top 50 and have one awful loss on our resume. If Arkansas and Florida were as good as some people think, our resume would be much better, but neither of them is very good. Arkansas is ranked behind every Big 12 team, for perspective.
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Tech is being propped up by that Tennessee win.
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We haven’t beaten anyone in the top 50 and have one awful loss on our resume. If Arkansas and Florida were as good as some people think, our resume would be much better, but neither of them is very good. Arkansas is ranked behind every Big 12 team, for perspective.
Not sure which ranking you're referring to, but Sagarin has Arkansas at 39, just seven spots behind OU and ahead of four Big 12 teams.

He has Florida at 31, one above OU and ahead of five other Big 12 teams.

He has Utah State at 55 and Butler at 110--(that's the one that really stings).
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Tech is being propped up by that Tennessee win.
And texas is being propped up by, well, by being texas. They get the pre- and early-season benefit of the doubt every freaking year. Their losses are only marginally better than ours, their best win (Stanford) is not impressive (the Cardinal is ranked 88 in Sagarin) and their strength of schedule (per Sagarin is 344th, 102 spots worse than ours (which is no great shakes at 242).
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Not sure which ranking you're referring to, but Sagarin has Arkansas at 39, just seven spots behind OU and ahead of four Big 12 teams.

He has Florida at 31, one above OU and ahead of five other Big 12 teams.

He has Utah State at 55 and Butler at 110--(that's the one that really stings).
I look primarily at NET because it’s the NCAA’s own ranking system. But you’re right, other rankings view those teams more favorably. It would help us if they both get back on track.
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I badly misspoke about texas' losses, both of which are much better than either of ours. But their wins are much worse than ours.
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