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Old 11-28-2019, 09:38 AM   #1
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Old 11-28-2019, 09:52 AM   #2
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Starters:

5-8 Fr DJ McCarty (DeSoto, Tx)
5-8 Soph Seraphine Bastin (Dinant, Belgium)
5-11 Soph Carla Bremaud, (Angers, France)
5-11 Soph Shyla Smith (Idabel, OK)
6-1 Sr Raven Prince, OKC, OK

Wichita has some height, but it is on the bench. The starters aren't that tall.

Leading scorers go 11.0 (McCarty), 8.5 (Bastin), 8.4 (Bremaud), 8.0 (Colbert), 7.7 (McCully), 7.4 (Smith), and 6.8 (Raven).Top rebounders: Smith (8.2) and Bastin (5.8)

Only shoot 41.5% from the field and 26.5 from three.

They don't look as good on paper as the teams we have been playing.
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Old 11-29-2019, 09:12 AM   #3
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Old 11-30-2019, 08:44 AM   #4
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Northern Iowa beat them on rebounds. Oral Roberts hit threes and free throws.

Of Wichita's 332 points, only 77 have been scored by players who are 6-1 or taller. Only 56 or their 192 rebounds have been by players who are 6-1 or more. The boards should not be a problem.

The only advantage that Wichita State has is that they are at home.
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:20 PM   #5
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I thought this might be an easier game looking at their results but we are struggling. They appear to be more physical than us and are most likely outrebounding us. Not unsurprisingly Simpson has yet to grab a rebound!
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:26 PM   #6
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Veitenheimer still starting for Lemon.

9:27 OU 9-7
4:30 OU 9-11 WS has two OR and Two threes

Lemon in the game.

End of first quarter OU 18 Wichita 20
Simpson on bench,,,missed two FTs that would have given OU the lead. Wichita is 3 of 4 from three and 57% from the field. Not bad for a lousy shooting team.
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:39 PM   #7
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Veitenheimer still starting for Lemon.

9:27 OU 9-7
4:30 OU 9-11 WS has two OR and Two threes

Lemon in the game.

End of first quarter OU 18 Wichita 20
Simpson on bench,,,missed two FTs that would have given OU the lead. Wichita is 3 of 4 from three and 57% from the field. Not bad for a lousy shooting team.

I feel like most teams are going to have better performances then they've had when they play us, on account of our horrible defense. We just looked lost out there have no one to go to on offense unless Robinson has an open shot. Us not having a physical post really kills us in times like this. I don't understand how a Hall of Fame coach hasn't produced more than this, they don't look any better than last year right now! Sloppy passing, no one is following their shots to rebound, poor decisions on offense, etc. I'm not sure what the answer is but we need to find it because Wichita State would most likely be at the very bottom of the Big 12. This really worries me..
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:54 PM   #8
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20-30
Wichita has hit 4 of 5 from three. We are 2 of 8. Ana can't do anything right. They are on an 8-0 run as we haven't scored (3:14). TO and missed shots. 6:00 left in second. THey are shooting 61%.

22-38 as they are now 6 of 7 from three. Shooting 67%
24-38 as Ana hits FTs
28-42 Madi hitting fFTs
31-42 three by Robertson
33-43 Madi hits FT 34-43
34-45 as they get OR, and Simpson gets another TO
34-47
36-47 Ana hits
Madi steals with 3 sec, Tatum hits one of two FTs
37-50 as they hit a three, 7 of 9 from three at halftime Got the rebound from Tatum's missed FT, and threw up a half court shot and hit it.

They shot 66%m 7 of 9 from three. This is a lousy shooting team?

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Old 11-30-2019, 03:08 PM   #9
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When a team that can't shoot against bad teams suddenly hits you for 66% from the field and 7 of 9 from three, you just have to shake your head and wonder. Our turnovers aren't helping us. Every mistake that we have made had resulted in a Wichita State score. We have 3 more turnovers, and they have two more Rebounds. They scored off their OR. We did twice. But, we also turned it over after getting an offensive board.

Simpson simply can't do anything right. Misses FTs that would have given us a lead. Turns it over at the wrong times. No presence on boards. Madi has two TOs, that were from balls thrown at knees.
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Old 11-30-2019, 03:10 PM   #10
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Our defense would make the Muskogee School School for the Blind great shooters.

What will happen against UConn and Baylor? Those are real teams, not cream puffs.

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Old 11-30-2019, 03:31 PM   #11
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40-50 as Taylor hits a three.
40-53 they are now 8 of 10 from three
42-53 Ana
42-56 they are now 9 of 11 from three
44-56 Madi, misses FT
44-59 they are now 10 of 12 from three
47-59 Robertson
47-62 they are now 11 of 13 from three
49-62 Ana FTs
51-64 Ana
THEY MISS A THREE, tAYLOR HITS A THREE
54-64 4:11 time out, has a FT after time out, 4 pt play? 55-64
55-67 12 for 16 from three after two OR
57-67 Ana
58-67 Lemon FT
59-67 Lemon FT twice 1 for 2
60-67 Lemon FT three times 1 of 2
Ana missed a 3
End of three
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Old 11-30-2019, 04:06 PM   #12
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[quote=sybarite;637783]When a team that can't shoot against bad teams suddenly hits you for 66% from the field and 7 of 9 from three, you just have to shake your head and wonder. Our turnovers aren't helping us. Every mistake that we have made had resulted in a Wichita State score. We have 3 more turnovers, and they have two more Rebounds. They scored off their OR. We did twice. But, we also turned it over after getting an offensive board.

Simpson just can't do anything right.

I agree, Simpson has been worse than she normally is the past two or three games, yet she STILL stays in and doesn't get benched. This is the reason why I believe SC has lost it and is a horrible coach. Rather than give other taller more coordinated and athletic players a chance she sticks with her favorite and has cost us a couple games, IMO. Simpson is not the only problem though, our other players simply are not disciplined and do not value the ball any moreso than they did last year. I see no improvement and I don't believe any will come further down the season. I'm done with this team at this point, because of the coaching. It's too frustrating to watch the games and waste time and money on. I say let SC go after this season and hire a new, more motivated coach.
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Old 11-30-2019, 04:10 PM   #13
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60-68
61-68 Gregory 1 of 2 FT
64-68 Gregory
time out Wichita 8:26
64-70
66-70 Gregory on OR
66-72 FTs
Taylor misses a three
66-73
66-75 on OR
time out oOU 5:25 we have missed some threes, and given up a couple of boards. Lemon is 0 for 7, We are 7 of 21 from three. Lemon is 0-5, We get down to 4 and screw up.
Taylor misses a 3, we get OR, Lemon turnover
68-75 Ana
68-77
Ana turnover
71-77 Taaylor
74-77 Gregory on OR 1:42'
74-78 1:29
Madi miss layup
74-80 as Mandyfouls out 74-81 We say she walked with it.
77-81 Taylor 0:46
77-83
Ana fouls
77-84
80-84 Taylor
83-84 Ana
83-86 on FTs
Turnover tatum
they hit FTs after they clock ran out 83-88
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Old 11-30-2019, 04:24 PM   #14
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If we’re going to make the tournament, we’re going to need to improve a little
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Old 11-30-2019, 04:24 PM   #15
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When a team that can't shoot against bad teams suddenly hits you for 66% from the field and 7 of 9 from three, you just have to shake your head and wonder. Our turnovers aren't helping us. Every mistake that we have made had resulted in a Wichita State score. We have 3 more turnovers, and they have two more Rebounds. They scored off their OR. We did twice. But, we also turned it over after getting an offensive board.

Simpson just can't do anything right.

I agree, Simpson has been worse than she normally is the past two or three games, yet she STILL stays in and doesn't get benched. This is the reason why I believe SC has lost it and is a horrible coach. Rather than give other taller more coordinated and athletic players a chance she sticks with her favorite and has cost us a couple games, IMO. Simpson is not the only problem though, our other players simply are not disciplined and do not value the ball any moreso than they did last year. I see no improvement and I don't believe any will come further down the season. I'm done with this team at this point, because of the coaching. It's too frustrating to watch the games and waste time and money on. I say let SC go after this season and hire a new, more motivated coach.
My family quit going to the games last year along with my donation to the program. SC's "team" is a clown show.
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Old 11-30-2019, 04:26 PM   #16
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What is the season outlook? Wichita State is not ranked in the Top 150 NCAA Division 1 teams by Massey. Our ladies came back against a team that is going nowhere and could not overcome the terrible first half. It is rational to view OU WBB as a train wreck with little hope for the future. How can you recruit quality players to a program in flames? Maybe the volume poster can enlighten the ignorant.
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Old 11-30-2019, 04:29 PM   #17
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I think I'll wait and talk to those who post after wins.

I don't think the others really want answers.
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Old 11-30-2019, 04:33 PM   #18
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What is the season outlook? Wichita State is not ranked in the Top 150 NCAA Division 1 teams by Massey. Our ladies came back against a team that is going nowhere and could not overcome the terrible first half. It is rational to view OU WBB as a train wreck with little hope for the future. How can you recruit quality players to a program in flames? Maybe the volume poster can enlighten the ignorant.

I think even Syb is disappointed at this point. The first few games seemed to show some promise but we've reverted back to the train wreck we were last season the last three. The problem is SC recruits NAIA level players, for the most part, because they fit her image and expects to get results against division 1 talent. It's very obvious that this group is capped out on potential with the exception of maybe two or three of the younger players. like I said on the other board I don't expect us to win but only one more non-conference game, against Sam Houston State, and then to remain winless until we play Kansas in conference. if I'm wrong I will be glad for it. We just don't have the talent or athleticism as a whole on the team. I must reiterate, SC showed how horrible a coach she's become by leaving in Simpson and not giving our bigger girls and opportunity to prove them selfs. They could not have done a worse job than she did. Regardless, if SC remains at the head of this program I see no upward movement and for this program to continue to go absolutely nowhere. If we end up at the bottom, or the bottom two of the Big 12 this year I wonder how much more patience our AD will have... HOPEFULLY NONE. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
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Old 11-30-2019, 07:03 PM   #19
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The game was on ESPN3, so I decided to watch it. Big mistake.

This is a disgrace.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:30 PM   #20
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Nice job Sherri & Colton
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