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Old 09-16-2020, 02:42 PM   #1501
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no. There isn't even a choice really.

Herd immunity by definition does not involve a vaccine
Vaccines result in immunity. Thatís how they work. When a population is vaccinated over a threshold percentage, they have achieved herd immunity. And once herd immunity is achieved, through vaccination, then those that canít take a vaccine are also protected. See: polio, smallpox, etc.
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Old 09-16-2020, 02:58 PM   #1502
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Vaccines result in immunity. Thatís how they work. When a population is vaccinated over a threshold percentage, they have achieved herd immunity. And once herd immunity is achieved, through vaccination, then those that canít take a vaccine are also protected. See: polio, smallpox, etc.
well yeah. But in the discussion of covid, herd immunity does not include vaccination. You know that...we all know that
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:03 PM   #1503
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well yeah. But in the discussion of covid, herd immunity does not include vaccination. You know that...we all know that
Well itís the only plausible scenario for Covid-19 herd immunity.
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:21 PM   #1504
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Don't we know for certain that "herd immunity" with no vaccine will kill a decent percentage of the population? That isn't being seriously proposed, is it?
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:30 PM   #1505
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Don't we know for certain that "herd immunity" with no vaccine will kill a decent percentage of the population? That isn't being seriously proposed, is it?
We don't know that. To know the number of people that would be killed would require knowing the number of people that are infected right now

Take a look at India vs Pakistan.

Very different strategies. Very different results.
Why does Pakistan look so good now?
Maybe it is that they stopped testing as much.
But if you look at their positive test rate Pakistan is still really low
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:33 PM   #1506
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Don't we know for certain that "herd immunity" with no vaccine will kill a decent percentage of the population? That isn't being seriously proposed, is it?
It has nothing to do with being a proposal for the virus is not asking for permission as it will do as it bloody pleases. Reality: "everyone dies." Abd: "that isn't being seriously proposed, is it."

Without a vaccine/cure, time with the help of the virus, will inflict its damage.

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Old 09-16-2020, 03:55 PM   #1507
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Don't we know for certain that "herd immunity" with no vaccine will kill a decent percentage of the population? That isn't being seriously proposed, is it?
Yes we know that it will kill a large number of people and nobody serious is proposing it as a solution.
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Old 09-16-2020, 06:31 PM   #1508
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Isnít there a thread dedicated to Covid, the vaccine, etc?
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