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Old 05-05-2020, 02:52 PM   #51
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They were a top 35 team last year, have 7 of 9 returnees who played significant minutes, have an impact transfer coming.

You keep bringing up TCUís youth but they had 3 seniors starting. Iíll take OUís 3 freshmen last year over TCUís 3.
Devion Harmon
Victor Iwuokor
Jalen Hill

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PJ Fuller
Diante Smith
Francisco Farabello

Interesting. Two of those seniors they had were roster plugs because of the transfers. They were decent role players, but the real talent on the team was the youth.
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.....have an impact transfer coming.
Maybe. Let's wait until we hear he can plan next year before committing to that.
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Maybe. Let's wait until we hear he can plan next year before committing to that.
True. He did have OU in there without Gibson though.
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True. He did have OU in there without Gibson though.
But with JB? Who I guess could still come back. lol. Messy.
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But with JB? Who I guess could still come back. lol. Messy.
Nope he already included JB as a key loss with Doolittle.
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I honestly don't know how OU could be one of them.

Do you?
Because we lost only doo and maybe JB.

I think if we went back Iím sure somewhere you said doo is too much 1v1 and JB wasnít very good but I donít have that much free time.
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Because we lost only doo and maybe JB.

I think if we went back Iím sure somewhere you said doo is too much 1v1 and JB wasnít very good but I donít have that much free time.
I don't think JB is a loss. But Doolittle is a huge loss.
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I don't think JB is a loss. But Doolittle is a huge loss.
And without Gibson, we're really adding nothing. Even if Phipps plays, I just can't see him moving the needle much this year.

With Gibson, I think we're very similar to the last few years. Without him, it's hard to not see us backing up 2-3 games at least in the W/L column.
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I don't think JB is a loss. But Doolittle is a huge loss.
Agree 100% on doo.

I for one would start Williams over JB. But itís either way. We return 7 of our top 9 and all the sudden we drop to a sucky team.

Youíre hatred for Lon is taking over.

NIT team you said in another post? 17-18-19 we werenít even the last 4 in.

So youíre just off base.
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Agree 100% on doo.

I for one would start Williams over JB. But it’s either way. We return 7 of our top 9 and all the sudden we drop to a sucky team.

You’re hatred for Lon is taking over.

NIT team you said in another post? 17-18-19 we weren’t even the last 4 in.

So you’re just off base.
Return 7 of 9 from an NIT quality team that scraped by, while missing the best player (by far) in the group. There is lots of young players who could certainly fill that gap though. Hill, Garang, Victor, Harmon, etc should all improve.. but I thought JB was going to improve and he was basically the same player. It's hard to predict that.

I have no hatred for Lon.... I just think its time for a change.
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I for one would start Williams over JB. But itís either way. We return 7 of our top 9 and all the sudden we drop to a sucky team.
LOL, come on, be better than that. Nobody said we'd suck. The lowest win mark I've seen was big through out 15. I've said we'd back up 2-3 wins, which almost certainly would put us out of the Dance. That is it. We're a game or two on the right side of the bubble the last few years. Losing 2-3 of those games, we'd likely be on the wrong side of the bubble. That is accurate. You may not agree that we'll back up 2-3 games, but you have to agree if we do, we're likely not Dancing.
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Return 7 of 9 from an NIT quality team that scraped by, while missing the best player (by far) in the group. There is lots of young players who could certainly fill that gap though. Hill, Garang, Victor, Harmon, etc should all improve.. but I thought JB was going to improve and he was basically the same player. It's hard to predict that.

I have no hatred for Lon.... I just think its time for a change.
NIT quality? Based on what, that they were easily in the tourney & a top 35 team?
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Return 7 of 9 from an NIT quality team
Oh, for pete's sake. You need to take a break. You're embarrassing yourself (and if you're not embarrassed, you should be).
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Return 7 of 9 from an NIT quality team that scraped by, while missing the best player (by far) in the group. There is lots of young players who could certainly fill that gap though. Hill, Garang, Victor, Harmon, etc should all improve.. but I thought JB was going to improve and he was basically the same player. It's hard to predict that.

I have no hatred for Lon.... I just think its time for a change.
Come on man. Nit?
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LOL, come on, be better than that. Nobody said we'd suck. The lowest win mark I've seen was big through out 15. I've said we'd back up 2-3 wins, which almost certainly would put us out of the Dance. That is it. We're a game or two on the right side of the bubble the last few years. Losing 2-3 of those games, we'd likely be on the wrong side of the bubble. That is accurate. You may not agree that we'll back up 2-3 games, but you have to agree if we do, we're likely not Dancing.
For the last several years you guys keep saying weíre not making the tournament zero chance at the dance not finishing in the top half but year after year we make the dance this year we finished third in the big 12 and next year here we are again not gonna make the dance.

And there you are again if we lose two or three more games. If. If. If. The point is we didnít lose two or three more games
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LOL, come on, be better than that. Nobody said we'd suck. The lowest win mark I've seen was big through out 15. I've said we'd back up 2-3 wins, which almost certainly would put us out of the Dance. That is it. We're a game or two on the right side of the bubble the last few years. Losing 2-3 of those games, we'd likely be on the wrong side of the bubble. That is accurate. You may not agree that we'll back up 2-3 games, but you have to agree if we do, we're likely not Dancing.
With you, we were always -- and I do mean always -- two or three losses away from missing the tourney. You never state that we were two or three wins away from a higher seed, even though that what-if scenario would be every bit as accurate as your wrong-side-of-the-bubble revisionist takes on past seasons.
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Return 7 of 9 from an NIT quality team that scraped by, while missing the best player (by far) in the group. There is lots of young players who could certainly fill that gap though. Hill, Garang, Victor, Harmon, etc should all improve.. but I thought JB was going to improve and he was basically the same player. It's hard to predict that.

I have no hatred for Lon.... I just think its time for a change.
Itís hard to predict.... sure. But youíre pretty damn good at being spot on with ISU, OSU, TCU, TT, ...


Just never fails that OU players arenít getting better ever.
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NIT quality? Based on what, that they were easily in the tourney & a top 35 team?
We were definitely better than an NIT quality team, but we we 36 in kempom, 43 in RPI and 46 in NET. Braketmatrix had us as a 10 seed. That's not a top 35 team. I would like to get back to watching OU in the white uniforms the first weekend. so Top 8 seeds, Top 30 rankings. Is that asking too much?
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For the last several years you guys keep saying weíre not making the tournament zero chance at the dance not finishing in the top half but year after year we make the dance this year we finished third in the big 12 and next year here we are again not gonna make the dance.

And there you are again if we lose two or three more games. If. If. If. The point is we didnít lose two or three more games
I doubt you can find a single post from me the last 2-3 years predicting we won't make the Dance. Not a single one. Don't make stuff up.

We finished TIED for third in the Big 12, and were going to be seeded FAR behind 5 Big 12 teams in the Dance. So much for that OOC stuff, huh? And if ESPN is to be believed, they had OSU Dancing with a better seed than us. Not sure I believe that, but it's there.
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We were definitely better than an NIT quality team, but we we 36 in kempom, 43 in RPI and 46 in NET. Braketmatrix had us as a 10 seed. That's not a top 35 team. I would like to get back to watching OU in the white uniforms the first weekend. so Top 8 seeds, Top 30 rankings. Is that asking too much?
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We were definitely better than an NIT quality team, but we we 36 in kempom, 43 in RPI and 46 in NET. Braketmatrix had us as a 10 seed. That's not a top 35 team. I would like to get back to watching OU in the white uniforms the first weekend. so Top 8 seeds, Top 30 rankings. Is that asking too much?
Last I saw OU was a 9 seed, which is top 36.

You do realize OU won a game, easily, last year & played tough against the national champions? That shows me more than wearing white jerseys. OU should have higher seeds every few years, but making the tournament consistently while running a clean program is a great standard.
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I doubt you can find a single post from me the last 2-3 years predicting we won't make the Dance. Not a single one. Don't make stuff up.

We finished TIED for third in the Big 12, and were going to be seeded FAR behind 5 Big 12 teams in the Dance. So much for that OOC stuff, huh? And if ESPN is to be believed, they had OSU Dancing with a better seed than us. Not sure I believe that, but it's there.
OU was only predicted to be a lower seed than 3 Big12 teams. So yeah I think OOC was a big deal.
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Last I saw OU was a 9 seed, which is top 36.

You do realize OU won a game, easily, last year & played tough against the national champions? That shows me more than wearing white jerseys. OU should have higher seeds every few years, but making the tournament consistently while running a clean program is a great standard.
In 2019 we were 36 and we won a game. And i was happy when we won. Still not top 35. Top 35 was your claim not mine. I don't care about playing teams close, i care about wins. same way i don't care when people say we only beat this team by 1 or this team by 3, we won those games. Winning matters. I would like to see OU do it more. Especially since we have the 19th highest paid coach in the NCAA. If that is asking too much then why are we paying a coach 3.3 million?

https://sports.yahoo.com/official-20...010041591.html - Link showing the NCAA ranked us 36.
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We finished TIED for third in the Big 12, and were going to be seeded FAR behind 5 Big 12 teams in the Dance. So much for that OOC stuff, huh? And if ESPN is to be believed, they had OSU Dancing with a better seed than us. Not sure I believe that, but it's there.
What nonsense. Had we finished tied for third but with the sixth seed in the conference tourney, it's a rock-solid certainty you and the rest of the glass-half-empty club would have been complaining about our sixth-place finish. That's not even conjecture on my part -- we witnessed it in previous seasons.
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In 2019 we were 36 and we won a game. And i was happy when we won. Still not top 35. Top 35 was your claim not mine. I don't care about playing teams close, i care about wins. same way i don't care when people say we only beat this team by 1 or this team by 3, we won those games. Winning matters. I would like to see OU do it more. Especially since we have the 19th highest paid coach in the NCAA. If that is asking too much then why are we paying a coach 3.3 million?

https://sports.yahoo.com/official-20...010041591.html - Link showing the NCAA ranked us 36.
Thatís fair. I too just care about wins, with a fundamental objectivity to sos. Sorry Iíll say top 36 instead of top 35.

He was paid that much to clean the program up & get OU back to where it should be, heís exceeded both. In his time at OU has he not had OU in the top 19 programs over that time? 7/8 tourney appearances, 1 FF, 1 sweet 16. Again Iíll say it while running a clean program.
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