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Old 03-04-2019, 12:24 PM   #1
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Angry Magic Johnson as a General Manager

1. Trades away D'Angelo Russell so he can draft Lonzo Ball. He implies that Russell lacks leadership, and anoints Ball as the savior of the franchise. Currently, Russell is over 20 ppg as a scorer, and is averaging almost 7 assists per game. Ball is a little under 10 ppg as a scorer, and is one of the worst foul shooters in the NBA. A pg needs to be able to knock down free throws at the end of games. Ball cannot.

2. In drafting Ball, he overlooks Jayson Tatum, who is a 16 and 6 player this year, and had terrific performances in last year's playoffs. So instead of having Russell and Tatum in his current rebuild, he has only Ball.

3. He got Brook Lopez in the Russell trade, then declined to resign him, in favor of JaVale McGee. Lopez is a 12 ppg performer this year on a team that is clearly superior to The Lakers.

4. He lazily pursued Paul George in free agency, looking to have George be the Robin to LeBron's Batman. Not only didn't he get George, but he didn't even get a chance to speak to George face to face.

5. He tried to get Anthony Davis in a mid-season trade. When the information leaked about the young players who had been offered for Davis, these players on-court performance was clearly compromised.

6. On George, he blamed Paul for not giving him a face to face interview. On the young players, he blamed them for not acting like professionals after the trade rumors were leaked.

Perhaps Magic could consider blaming himself for The Lakers woes?
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Old 03-04-2019, 05:11 PM   #2
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1. Trades away D'Angelo Russell so he can draft Lonzo Ball. He implies that Russell lacks leadership, and anoints Ball as the savior of the franchise. Currently, Russell is over 20 ppg as a scorer, and is averaging almost 7 assists per game. Ball is a little under 10 ppg as a scorer, and is one of the worst foul shooters in the NBA. A pg needs to be able to knock down free throws at the end of games. Ball cannot.
He didn't trade away Russell for Lonzo Ball. He traded away Russell for Kuzma and the capspace to Lebron James.

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2. In drafting Ball, he overlooks Jayson Tatum, who is a 16 and 6 player this year, and had terrific performances in last year's playoffs. So instead of having Russell and Tatum in his current rebuild, he has only Ball.
Give me Lonzo, Lebron, and Kuzma over Russell and Tatum any day. Also, nobody was suggesting drafting Tatum over Lonzo. Some people wanted to draft Fultz or Jackson instead, so I'm thankful we got Ball.

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3. He got Brook Lopez in the Russell trade, then declined to resign him, in favor of JaVale McGee. Lopez is a 12 ppg performer this year on a team that is clearly superior to The Lakers.
Signing JaVale was a great move.

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4. He lazily pursued Paul George in free agency, looking to have George be the Robin to LeBron's Batman. Not only didn't he get George, but he didn't even get a chance to speak to George face to face.
His agent publically leaked that he didn't want LA to trade away his assets for him. Then PG acts like LA didn't want him. I'm not sure what else LA was supposed to do. PG refused to even meet with them.

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5. He tried to get Anthony Davis in a mid-season trade. When the information leaked about the young players who had been offered for Davis, these players on-court performance was clearly compromised.
That's the media narrative, but is it true? Ingram has been lighting it up since the all-star break, and Lonzo has yet to log a minute.
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:03 PM   #3
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As a lifelong Laker fan, I'm in wait & see mode. Remember this was just supposed to be the start of building a contender. LBJ was the big prize, and this upcoming free agency is supposed to be the next step.

Russell became a liability when he injected himself in the personal business of Swaggy P. He was hated in the locker room after that. Ball is getting better, and is a night and day better defender than Russell. He still struggles with his shooting, but as his confidence has grown, he has shown he can be a pretty good NBA point guard.

Ingram is FINALLY showing us the promise they have been raving about. Can he take the next step?? Kuzma was a steal, and if he embraces hard work, gets stronger, and starts to take defense serious, he can be pretty good. The Davis mess was a bad look, and most of that showed how desperate the Lakers had gotten to make the playoffs. I think Pelinka and Magic got ahead of themselves, and the Pelicans leaders made a public joke out of them...

I believe Randall could have helped this team, but he wanted a big contract, and LA wasn't willing to give it. I just hope the Lakers don't get so focused on big name stars, they miss the chance to sign some solid mid level players who can make the team better. The chemistry right now is atrocious, and they need some hard working, hard nosed basketball players, and not more retreads or glamour boys....
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As a lifelong Laker fan, I'm in wait & see mode. Remember this was just supposed to be the start of building a contender. LBJ was the big prize, and this upcoming free agency is supposed to be the next step.
I feel similar. I actually hated the idea of bringing in Magic (but loved the Pelinka hire), as most of his public comments about what the Lakers should do bordered on moronic -- he just seemed to like to hear himself talk. But then he sealed the deal on Lebron, which is exactly what he was brought in for. We'll have to see how this offseason goes. I'm cautiously optimistic.

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The Davis mess was a bad look, and most of that showed how desperate the Lakers had gotten to make the playoffs. I think Pelinka and Magic got ahead of themselves, and the Pelicans leaders made a public joke out of them...
My prediction is that after this offseason, the Pelicans will have made a joke out of themselves. They aren't gonna get as good of an offer as was reportedly proposed by the Lakers. Ingram will likely be pulled from offers this offseason -- unless LA gets a second star and needs to shed Ingram's salary to get the third/Davis, in which case I suspect all draft picks and salary relief for the Pelicans will be pulled.

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I believe Randall could have helped this team, but he wanted a big contract, and LA wasn't willing to give it. I just hope the Lakers don't get so focused on big name stars, they miss the chance to sign some solid mid level players who can make the team better. The chemistry right now is atrocious, and they need some hard working, hard nosed basketball players, and not more retreads or glamour boys....
Randle would have helped, but he wouldn't agree to a 1 year deal (I don't blame him). This was the kind of tough decision they had to make, and it will all be worth it if it leads to signing a guy like Kawhi, Butler, Kyrie, or even Klay (screw KD).
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Old 03-06-2019, 08:38 AM   #5
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Lakers are 30-34. That is with Kuzma, Ball, Hart, and Ingram. Clearly the mix is not working, no matter how you try to spin it.
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Lakers are 30-34. That is with Kuzma, Ball, Hart, and Ingram. Clearly the mix is not working, no matter how you try to spin it.
I'm still wiling to give more time to Ingram because we are now seeing the potential we have heard about. Ball is in year 2, so that doesn't need discussion. He has improved his defense, court awareness, and playmaking ability. He needs major work on his shot. Kuzma, in my opinion is the overrated one, but we got him for cheap, so he's already paid his way, IMO...

The days of LA being able to buy a championship caliber team overnight are over. Top teams need at least 3 great players, and the players are not as easy to lure to LA as they once were. We will see what Magic and Pelinka pull off this offseason. If they land none of the top FA's, I would hope they at least build a competitive team, send LBJ out the right way, then start a real rebuild using the draft and smart moves. The homerun free agent hits haven't happened lately, other than LBJ who obviously used more than just hoops in his decision making process.
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Lakers are 30-34. That is with Kuzma, Ball, Hart, and Ingram. Clearly the mix is not working, no matter how you try to spin it.
They were 4th in the West when they had Lebron and Lonzo. Get those 2 healthy and add a guy like Kawhi, and you have a legit contender.
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I feel similar. I actually hated the idea of bringing in Magic (but loved the Pelinka hire), as most of his public comments about what the Lakers should do bordered on moronic -- he just seemed to like to hear himself talk. But then he sealed the deal on Lebron, which is exactly what he was brought in for. We'll have to see how this offseason goes. I'm cautiously optimistic.



My prediction is that after this offseason, the Pelicans will have made a joke out of themselves. They aren't gonna get as good of an offer as was reportedly proposed by the Lakers. Ingram will likely be pulled from offers this offseason -- unless LA gets a second star and needs to shed Ingram's salary to get the third/Davis, in which case I suspect all draft picks and salary relief for the Pelicans will be pulled.



Randle would have helped, but he wouldn't agree to a 1 year deal (I don't blame him). This was the kind of tough decision they had to make, and it will all be worth it if it leads to signing a guy like Kawhi, Butler, Kyrie, or even Klay (screw KD).

Well said. I love Magic, he will always be one of top 3 Lakers, along with Kareem and Kobe, but I'm still not sure about his front office ability. I'm glad we got LBJ, but I also see some of the early stages of decline I remember seeing in Kobe. Thing about those level of superstars, is when they decline, it's like it happens overnight. LBJ's effort and lateral movement on defense is not close to what it use to be. Always an early sign of decline.

I remember watching Kobe playing matador defense the last 4 or 5 yrs of his career. I saw that same defense from LBJ too many times this year to be comfortable with it. I hope when LA goes after the big fish, they get one who can become the face of the franchise soon. I think LBJ can still play at a high level for several more seasons barring injury, but he isn't the dominant force he was.....
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The Lakers window will be small. They need to win it all in the next year or two

The only negative for the Pelicans is Lonzos dad. They need to tell him that as part of the deal he stays with the Lakers.


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The Lakers window will be small. They need to win it all in the next year or two
Anthony Davis is 26, and the best player in the NBA to build a franchise around. I'm not completely convinced the Lakers will only have one window. AD will likely be around for 6 years. Lebron's contract comes off the books in 3 years. Unless their leadership is as incompetent as Demps, they'll be able to regroup.
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Anthony Davis is 26, and the best player in the NBA to build a franchise around. I'm not completely convinced the Lakers will only have one window. AD will likely be around for 6 years. Lebron's contract comes off the books in 3 years. Unless their leadership is as incompetent as Demps, they'll be able to regroup.
Exactly. Davis will be the face of the franchise for awhile. LBJ's window may be limited.
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Has he signed long term?


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No, but he's made it very clear he intends to. He'd be walking away from the supermax dollars, and if he left two teams in two consecutive years he would be inviting a reputation he'd much rather avoid. He all but forced his way to LA.
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Hearing some very positive things about Kawhi as well. Not saying it's in the bag, but the Lakers are very real contenders for his services. That's a trio that could take down even a healthy/retained Warriors team.
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No, but he's made it very clear he intends to. He'd be walking away from the supermax dollars, and if he left two teams in two consecutive years he would be inviting a reputation he'd much rather avoid. He all but forced his way to LA.


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A skeptic that he'll resign?
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More of a skeptic that this pushís then over the hump to a NBA Championship next year. Iím not a Laker hater. I just donít have a warm fuzzy feeling.


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More of a skeptic that this pushís then over the hump to a NBA Championship next year. Iím not a Laker hater. I just donít have a warm fuzzy feeling.


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I'm buying them as a contender, but we'll have to see how the rest of the offseason unfolds before I call them favorites.
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Boston continues to crumble. One of the worst years for a team I can remember in recent sports history. I almost feel bad for their fanbase. Almost.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ek-deal-boston
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Boston continues to crumble. One of the worst years for a team I can remember in recent sports history. I almost feel bad for their fanbase. Almost.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ek-deal-boston
wow....lol
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We've been teasing this Celtic fan at work; now he goes around yelling "LeBron is trash!" all day.
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Boston continues to crumble. One of the worst years for a team I can remember in recent sports history. I almost feel bad for their fanbase. Almost.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ek-deal-boston
Don't ever hitch your wagon to Kyrie. That guy can torpedo any locker room.
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Sounds like Boston may be able to save face (to some extent) with Kemba. They won't be contenders anytime soon, but they'll be mildly relevant if they pull that off.

LA now has max cap space for Kawhi or Kyrie. As expected, the media was freaking out about nothing. They already had enough for DLo (or the silly "split the money for role players" idea clueless media keep yacking about), so I think they have their sights set higher.
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Don't ever hitch your wagon to Kyrie. That guy can torpedo any locker room.
It's deeper than that. Stevens was showing favoritism to his Butler buddy, and it ruffled the feathers of a lot of the younger players. They weren't content going back to their reduced roles, especially since Hayward didn't earn his spot back.
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Weird how that plays out sometimes. Ainge was the darling of front office managers recently, now he's looking shaky on the job.



Don't really understand Horford to Philly.....


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