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Old 04-10-2018, 05:36 PM   #1
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Old 04-10-2018, 06:01 PM   #2
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folks up here are not worried.

From the little I heard, haven't looked at link...3 guys were trying to funnel money to who they thought were jackson's family...

the little headline on the local news said "ku a victim in scam" so pretty sure nothing will happen
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Old 04-10-2018, 06:15 PM   #3
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He was funneling players to KU on his own accord. KU had no knowledge or involvement. ��

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He was funneling players to KU on his own accord. KU had no knowledge or involvement. ��
LOL. What a load of crap. Do you really believe they had no knowledge or involvement? GMAFB.

If you really believe that, youíre either incredibly naive or incredibly stupid.
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I am shocked.....shocked.....that gambling is going on in here!

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So even if nobody on the staff knew, the player still took money and would be ineligible and any games he played in would be vacated right?
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:20 AM   #10
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Kansas has been involved in recruiting guys that are for sale for a long time. This is not news, it's a given when you go after many of the guys they've gone after.
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:27 AM   #11
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So for Kansas to be a "victim" then the Adidas runner would have paid Souza's guardian 20k for him to attend KU and then told Souza's guardian not to say anything to anyone at KU because it will get everyone in trouble.

Self must think he's a heckuva recruiter, lol.

The AD's use of the word "victim" is funny on so many levels.
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:50 AM   #12
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So for Kansas to be a "victim" then the Adidas runner would have paid Souza's guardian 20k for him to attend KU and then told Souza's guardian not to say anything to anyone at KU because it will get everyone in trouble.

Self must think he's a heckuva recruiter, lol.

The AD's use of the word "victim" is funny on so many levels.
It isn't the athletic department that came up with the word victim, that is exactly what the indictment says. So according to the US government, the schools are, in fact, the victims. They allege that the payments were specifically designed to be concealed from the schools. Obviously people can draw their own conclusions about whether the schools were completely in the dark, but the US Attorney's Office in New York would not be protecting KU if they had proof KU did anything illegal.
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It isn't the athletic department that came up with the word victim, that is exactly what the indictment says. So according to the US government, the schools are, in fact, the victims. They allege that the payments were specifically designed to be concealed from the schools. Obviously people can draw their own conclusions about whether the schools were completely in the dark, but the US Attorney's Office in New York would not be protecting KU if they had proof KU did anything illegal.
You are correct.....that is the language used in the indictment. I was reading the AD's quote.

It is an interesting word choice.
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:17 AM   #14
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Here is the ESPN story.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...sketball-probe
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And Eddie knew nothing about the FedEx envelopes his players were getting in Kentucky
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It isn't the athletic department that came up with the word victim, that is exactly what the indictment says. So according to the US government, the schools are, in fact, the victims. They allege that the payments were specifically designed to be concealed from the schools. Obviously people can draw their own conclusions about whether the schools were completely in the dark, but the US Attorney's Office in New York would not be protecting KU if they had proof KU did anything illegal.
They have to use the word "victim." If the schools aren't "victims," there's no crime. This is the only way to justify the FBI's involvement at all. Otherwise, the FBI is just gathering evidence for the NCAA.
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:12 AM   #17
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KU had the ticket scandal years ago now and it was all for ticket brokers who also ran AAU programs to get great tickets at Naismith for resale. They then sent players to KU in exchange for the tickets. Lew Perkins resigned with a million dollar severance.
The attorney general said he wasn't interested in who had directed the ticket office to provide the tickets to the brokers.
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KU had the ticket scandal years ago now and it was all for ticket brokers who also ran AAU programs to get great tickets at Naismith for resale. They then sent players to KU in exchange for the tickets. Lew Perkins resigned with a million dollar severance.
The attorney general said he wasn't interested in who had directed the ticket office to provide the tickets to the brokers.
One of the ticket office people and their spouse got arrested in that deal. And one of their assistant coaches "gave" courtside tickets to a porn star he met on a plane.
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:36 PM   #19
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Yes I know and I know them. They were doing what the athletic department wanted done. It was for the ticket broker/AAU guys to make money and then send players to KU. The state took down the low level people and didn't want the info on the program.
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KU had the ticket scandal years ago now and it was all for ticket brokers who also ran AAU programs to get great tickets at Naismith for resale. They then sent players to KU in exchange for the tickets. Lew Perkins resigned with a million dollar severance.
The attorney general said he wasn't interested in who had directed the ticket office to provide the tickets to the brokers.
It's pretty remarkable how often KU seems to just skirt around being fully implicated/suffering consequences from these various scandals. This has been going on for decades (see e.g. Tom Grant/Rush brothers).

Virtually every season it seems like there's always some whiff of scandal or eligibility issue with some key recruit. And almost without fail, these always seem to get resolved just in the nick of time (typically no later than conference play) and almost always in KU's favor with an extra helping of "plausible deniability" to go around.

I expect nothing different with this FBI investigation.

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LOL. What a load of crap. Do you really believe they had no knowledge or involvement? GMAFB.

If you really believe that, youíre either incredibly naive or incredibly stupid.
It was a joke....But that's the song every Jayhawk is gonna squawk. And of course KU will not be punished because the NCAA protects it's investments.
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Old 04-12-2018, 03:24 PM   #22
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The Kansas athletic department finds itself in an interesting pickle, having negotiated a 14-year, $191 million sponsorship and apparel agreement scheduled to go into effect July 1, 2019.

The deal hasn’t been signed, which is interesting, because the crimson trim of the blue Adidas uniforms mirrors the face of the athletic department at the moment.

From what has been reported so far, no evidence exists that anybody from KU Athletics was connected to payments allegedly made from Adidas to guardians of two members of this past season’s Final Four basketball team. But remember, Adidas is a partner to Kansas.

The partnership was formed in 2005.

Let’s assume, for the sake of posing a question, that nobody at Kansas from the coaching staff to the administration to the cookie vendor had even an inkling that Adidas was greasing palms to steer players to Lawrence.

Given that scenario, should Kansas be grateful to Adidas for allegedly delivering a player without whom the Jayhawks probably would not have made it to the Final Four, or should Kansas be furious at a shoe-company executive for dragging its name into a dirty play-for-pay scheme?

If the answer is the latter, then shouldn’t KU Athletics be looking to run as fast as it can in the other direction from Adidas, even if it means running barefoot until a deal with a company with a cleaner reputation can be negotiated? Like, say, Big Baller Brand, for instance?

The other option for KUAC, one that never would be challenged by its devoted fan base, would be to embrace that the Adidas executive in question went rogue, which enables Kansas to stay with the highest bidder. In other words, make it about principal and interest, not about principle.

This represents a defining choice for the university, one that ultimately will land on chancellor Douglas Girod’s desk. Again, the choice is a simple one: Go to the highest bidder or to the bidder with the highest principles, if indeed such a bidder exists.

Typically, when high-powered athletic departments find themselves embroiled in or on the edges of scandal, they dig in, wait for outside forces to make allegations, follow instructions of attorneys, make a statement here or there, wait for the final verdict, dust themselves off and move on. That goes for class credits for classes that don't exist, impermissible benefits, bribing shoe salesmen, etc.

Then again, you never know when an intolerant leader might come along and say enough is enough. Not on my watch.
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It was a joke....But that's the song every Jayhawk is gonna squawk. And of course KU will not be punished because the NCAA protects it's investments.
Sorry, I didnít pick up the sarcasm.


KU has been cheating forever, since at least Danny manning, if not sooner. They have quite a network of people working together to buy players in one form or another. The ticket scandal, phony jobs for family and friends of recruits, providing sex favors from the school nurse, and outright cash Payments to everyone. They never get punished.

Yet, Sampson and OU are cheaters for too many texts.

Itís a joke.


Do you know why this trend of 5 stars waiting to the last minute became so popular? Because itís a bidding war and they never get in trouble. The NCAA doesnít want to enforce the rules and stop cheaters. They only want to punish certain schools who arenít in their good old boys club so they can give the appearance of enforcing the rules. They donít give a crap about student athletes, fair play, or a level playing field. They only care about money and protecting their friends.
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Sorry, I didnít pick up the sarcasm.


KU has been cheating forever, since at least Danny manning, if not sooner. They have quite a network of people working together to buy players in one form or another. The ticket scandal, phony jobs for family and friends of recruits, providing sex favors from the school nurse, and outright cash Payments to everyone. They never get punished.

Yet, Sampson and OU are cheaters for too many texts.

Itís a joke.


Do you know why this trend of 5 stars waiting to the last minute became so popular? Because itís a bidding war and they never get in trouble. The NCAA doesnít want to enforce the rules and stop cheaters. They only want to punish certain schools who arenít in their good old boys club so they can give the appearance of enforcing the rules. They donít give a crap about student athletes, fair play, or a level playing field. They only care about money and protecting their friends.
Not sure I've ever read about sex favors and cash payments for everyone ...
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Not sure I've ever read about sex favors and cash payments for everyone ...
I believe a 35 yr old ish nurse from a local MS...thought it was from Lawrence, partied, and took sex pics with a player a few years ago...

http://www.kctv5.com/story/25404845/...o-leave-kansas
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