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Old 06-18-2020, 03:54 PM   #101
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This is absolutely correct. I get to read and listen to KU beat writers all the time and they all agree that KU’s approach from the outset has been to fight to the death and force the NCAA to prove their case. The details of their defense are somewhat nuanced, but the overall strategy is to not admit anything. I think more and more schools will do that after OSU and some of the other recent rulings.
Mizzou football did the same as OSU and they got hammered as well. I agree that fighting it tooth and nail is the way to go.
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Old 06-18-2020, 04:01 PM   #102
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Well your choices are, comply like osu did and get hammered, or fight and maybe get hammered maybe make it go away
I have to admit, I still don't see oswho's punishment as a hammering. That so many view it that way seems to be evidence that the NCAA's been too lax in recent years.
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Old 06-18-2020, 06:02 PM   #103
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I have to admit, I still don't see oswho's punishment as a hammering. That so many view it that way seems to be evidence that the NCAA's been too lax in recent years.
I completely agree. I don’t think osu was hammered either. The NCAA has been so soft for years on the biggest cheaters while really hammering small, no name schools. If they did a better job of enforcing the rules equitably, then CBB wouldn’t be so dirty.
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Old 06-18-2020, 07:04 PM   #104
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I have to admit, I still don't see oswho's punishment as a hammering. That so many view it that way seems to be evidence that the NCAA's been too lax in recent years.
You're probably right; it's just that the penalty couldn't have happened at a worse time for them. With decent coaching, that looked like at least a Sweet 16 roster...but it was only going to be that way for one year. It would be like us getting Blake Griffin, then getting hit with a one-year ban, and him choosing to go somewhere else. In that context, it would be a heavy punishment.
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Old 06-18-2020, 07:40 PM   #105
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I have to admit, I still don't see oswho's punishment as a hammering. That so many view it that way seems to be evidence that the NCAA's been too lax in recent years.
When put into the context of the piddly punishment KU will get, it is a royal hammering.
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Old 06-18-2020, 08:17 PM   #106
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You're probably right; it's just that the penalty couldn't have happened at a worse time for them. With decent coaching, that looked like at least a Sweet 16 roster...but it was only going to be that way for one year. It would be like us getting Blake Griffin, then getting hit with a one-year ban, and him choosing to go somewhere else. In that context, it would be a heavy punishment.
That’s where I’m at. I think the NCAA has been ridiculously soft, this was the worst incoming class for the NCAA to bear down on teams. I just hope the NCAA is consistent with harsher punishments.
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Old 06-18-2020, 08:25 PM   #107
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You're probably right; it's just that the penalty couldn't have happened at a worse time for them. With decent coaching, that looked like at least a Sweet 16 roster...but it was only going to be that way for one year. It would be like us getting Blake Griffin, then getting hit with a one-year ban, and him choosing to go somewhere else. In that context, it would be a heavy punishment.
I understand that (and why) it's an especially painful punishment for aggie fans, but the factors that make it such are not, in my opinion, anything the NCAA should have considered when determining the appropriate penalties. On top of which, oswho got the hot-shot recruit by hiring his brother, which, since it's not against the rules, is also not something the NCAA should have factored in, but it certainly lessens any inclination I might have had to feel sorry for them.
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I understand that (and why) it's an especially painful punishment for aggie fans, but the factors that make it such are not, in my opinion, anything the NCAA should have considered when determining the appropriate penalties. On top of which, oswho got the hot-shot recruit by hiring his brother, which, since it's not against the rules, is also not something the NCAA should have factored in, but it certainly lessens any inclination I might have had to feel sorry for them.
I can get on board with this.
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Old 06-22-2020, 08:39 AM   #109
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Cunningham announced he is still going to OSU.
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Old 06-22-2020, 08:52 AM   #110
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Cunningham announced he is still going to OSU.
Weird decision, but I guess it doesn't matter. It's just a showcase year for him. It's not like he really cares about winning a championship or anything... If he did, he wouldn't be going to OSU in the first place.
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Maybe he was afraid they'd fire his brother if he went elsewhere.
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Maybe he was afraid they'd fire his brother if he went elsewhere.
This is my guess, just looking out for his brother.
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Weird decision, but I guess it doesn't matter. It's just a showcase year for him. It's not like he really cares about winning a championship or anything... If he did, he wouldn't be going to OSU in the first place.

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Maybe he was afraid they'd fire his brother if he went elsewhere.
Yea, good point.
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Old 06-26-2020, 10:34 PM   #115
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There has been a bunch of activity on social media from guys like Dickie V and Jay Biias that their penalty for their transgressions is way too extreme. It will be interesting to see if all the hype around this influences the appeal. Even Oklahoma AG Mike Hunter jumped on the pile today. And dude is an attorney and he put them on blast for their inconsistent bull**** rulings.

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Old 06-26-2020, 11:02 PM   #116
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Both Vitale and Bilas can be awfully selective in their outrage. I wonder if they'd be as as vocal if oswho didn't have a top recruit coming to Stillwater. I seriously doubt it.

And Hunter got his undergrad degree from oswho, so unbiased he's not.
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