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Old 01-07-2019, 10:42 AM   #26
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Azubuike being out just furthers the point. ISU's roster is better than KU's top to bottom.

1. ISU
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3. OU/TCU/TTech
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:59 AM   #27
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Azubuike being out just furthers the point. ISU's roster is better than KU's top to bottom.

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3. OU/TCU/TTech
I think you have the Top 5 right....but it could be in any order at this point. I am curious to see how Iowa State plays on the road against a decent team (no osu doesn't count). I also believe that TCU is flying under radar and may be a little better than everyone thinks at this time. As for Tech, I think their lack of offensive punch is going to cost them a couple of losses that may be considered unexpected.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:05 PM   #28
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Overreaction: Fact or Fiction

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Old 01-07-2019, 02:10 PM   #29
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I think you have the Top 5 right....but it could be in any order at this point. I am curious to see how Iowa State plays on the road against a decent team (no osu doesn't count). I also believe that TCU is flying under radar and may be a little better than everyone thinks at this time. As for Tech, I think their lack of offensive punch is going to cost them a couple of losses that may be considered unexpected.
your questions are certainly legitimate ones. I havent had a chance to see TCU play yet. I have watched ISU a couple of times same with Tech. I also wonder if KState will bounce back a bit.
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:48 PM   #30
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your questions are certainly legitimate ones. I havent had a chance to see TCU play yet. I have watched ISU a couple of times same with Tech. I also wonder if KState will bounce back a bit.
KSU can't get any worse, and will almost certainly improve when Wade returns. But their offense was horrible even before he got hurt -- if they had played a decent noncon schedule, they would have at least a couple more losses.

Just saw two reporters tweet that Muni looked good in practice today, and he said that he definitely plans on playing tomorrow. I guess the bigger questions are, how long and how effectively will he play. Sure would be nice to get him back to full speed over the next week or two.
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Just saw two reporters tweet that Muni looked good in practice today, and he said that he definitely plans on playing tomorrow. I guess the bigger questions are, how long and how effectively will he play. Sure would be nice to get him back to full speed over the next week or two.
He looked to be in such pain after getting injured on Saturday, I'm just thrilled to have learned that he didn't actually aggravate the ankle sprain.
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:58 PM   #32
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Overreaction: Fact or Fiction

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I have watched KU play 6 games this season so far. Overreaction? I don't think so.
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Old 01-08-2019, 08:01 PM   #33
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I have watched KU play 6 games this season so far. Overreaction? I don't think so.
But how much Iowa state did you watch?
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:52 PM   #34
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Yes, I fully expect KU to win the league and will gladly put a bet on it, and next year too, until proven otherwise
You still want to bet on it?
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You still want to bet on it?
Not sure about him, but I would. ISU tonight is a perfect example of why KU wins every year.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:31 PM   #36
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Not sure about him, but I would. ISU tonight is a perfect example of why KU wins every year.
Exactly. This has played out almost every year with the same end result.

KU will win the big12 again and is always the favorite until someone else actually wins the league.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:28 PM   #37
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Not sure about him, but I would. ISU tonight is a perfect example of why KU wins every year.
The team that is better at winning on the road usually wins the conference. KU has that intimidation factor over most teams - even on the road.
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Old 01-09-2019, 03:15 PM   #38
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Another relevant note -- KU is bringing a freshman off redshirt tonight. He was a top 150 recruit and Self has said he is the best overall athlete on the team. They initially planned to redshirt him because he was pretty raw and didn't figure to play a ton, but he has apparently improved a lot since October and they are obviously going to have to play smaller without Azubuike. I can't imagine any other team in the league having the luxury of redshirting a guy like that, so it again shows that their roster is pretty darn good despite how bad they looked last weekend.
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Yes.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:08 PM   #40
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Conference is so good

Saw 4 good teams tonight. KU and TCU both without their best players are still money. And K State without their best guy too
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Conference is so good

Saw 4 good teams tonight. KU and TCU both without their best players are still money. And K State without their best guy too
Not to quibble but Lawson is not only KU's best player but the best in the conference. But I agree completely with your point, this league is very good even when key guys are missing. Heck, half the time I have to remind myself we've basically been without our starting center for five weeks.
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:31 AM   #42
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Not to quibble but Lawson is not only KU's best player but the best in the conference. But I agree completely with your point, this league is very good even when key guys are missing. Heck, half the time I have to remind myself we've basically been without our starting center for five weeks.
while lawson is KU's best player and going to be 1st team All big12 but

Jarrett Culver is the best player in the Big 12
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while lawson is KU's best player and going to be 1st team All big12 but

Jarrett Culver is the best player in the Big 12
Debatable. I'd be willing to bet Lawson wins POY, but Culver is the one guy I could see challenging him for it. Culver is definitely the better pro prospect and is more athletic, but Lawson is an unreal college player.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:59 PM   #44
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So I think we can go ahead and close this thread
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:02 PM   #45
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So I think we can go ahead and close this thread
really? you think 4 games into the season and it's over?? LOL
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really? you think 4 games into the season and it's over?? LOL
For Iowa state being the favorite? Absolutely
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:17 PM   #47
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staying pat is easy and safe. go ahead. I still say Iowa State.
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staying pat is easy and safe. go ahead. I still say Iowa State.
And being 0-2 with a loss to Baylor since you said this is why they aren't the favorite
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:21 PM   #49
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And being 0-2 with a loss to Baylor since you said this is why they aren't the favorite
did I say they would WIN the conference? I said they should be the favorite. And I didnt say the next day onward as well. So there.
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The conference season is young. There are still 4 or 5 teams that have the capability of winning the conference. And even the conference champion is likely going to lose at least once at home. It's a very competitive conference without much separation in the top tier.
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