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02-09-2020, 05:54 PM
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The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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02-09-2020, 06:03 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
Doesn't that earn a fine in the NBA?
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02-10-2020, 01:28 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
Smart should be banned from the league for poor acting. He was better at it in college.
Then again, he got the call. So, what do I know?
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02-14-2020, 01:52 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
Maybe the easiest player to hate in the NBA, even if you aren't aware of his college affiliation and antics.
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09-02-2020, 06:52 AM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
5 threes in the 4th quarter to lead the C's to the win last night. Including 3 straight on 3 possessions in a row.
He still acts like a knucklehead sometimes, but he is a really good all around player.
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09-02-2020, 05:35 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
For every time he hits five 3s in a row, he misses five 3s in a row twice. He contributes, but he's nothing special.
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09-02-2020, 06:50 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by Eielson
For every time he hits five 3s in a row, he misses five 3s in a row twice. He contributes, but he's nothing special.
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He’s not a star but he does a ton of things that don’t show up that cause winning.
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09-03-2020, 04:22 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by BCSooners
He’s not a star but he does a ton of things that don’t show up that cause winning.
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Yeah, kinda like Alex Caruso. Very replaceable.
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09-03-2020, 05:36 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by Eielson
Yeah, kinda like Alex Caruso. Very replaceable.
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09-03-2020, 06:43 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Their career per 36 minute statistics are virtually identical. There's a stat for everything nowadays, so the only things that don't show up in the stats are being a good teammate/locker room presence -- that goes to Caruso by a mile. Caruso is a better shooter, better dunker, plays better within the system, and before you say Smart is a better defender...
https://lakersdaily.com/alex-caruso-...ive-statistic/
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09-03-2020, 08:03 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by Eielson
Their career per 36 minute statistics are virtually identical. There's a stat for everything nowadays, so the only things that don't show up in the stats are being a good teammate/locker room presence -- that goes to Caruso by a mile. Caruso is a better shooter, better dunker, plays better within the system, and before you say Smart is a better defender...
https://lakersdaily.com/alex-caruso-...ive-statistic/
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Smart has shot better this year in every shooting category and isn’t as open as Caruso. Sure you can post per 36 but the fact is one gets double the minutes as the other on a team more loaded with guards. Smart is better at everything except dunking & he can switch on the Embids & Towns of the game. Caruso is a solid role player, Smart excels at the role.
Plays better in the system? Celtics have the best system with the Spurs & maybe Heat. Lakers let LeBron & Davis go to work and just space out.
Last edited by BCSooners; 09-03-2020 at 08:06 PM.
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09-03-2020, 08:24 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Smart has shot better this year in every shooting category and isn’t as open as Caruso. Sure you can post per 36 but the fact is one gets double the minutes as the other on a team more loaded with guards. Smart is better at everything except dunking & he can switch on the Embids & Towns of the game. Caruso is a solid role player, Smart excels at the role.
Plays better in the system? Celtics have the best system with the Spurs & maybe Heat. Lakers let LeBron & Davis go to work and just space out.
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Smart has NOT shot better than Caruso in every category...in fact, he has a worse effective FG%. To top that off, this is Caruso's worst year and Smart's second best year in that category. I'm not sure there is anything Smart is unquestionably better at other than guarding centers...which is not useful when the other guys on the floor include Lebron, AD, and McGee/Howard. He's also better at jumping into the stands and creating locker room drama.
I did not say the Lakers have the best system. I'm saying that Caruso fits into the Lakers system better than Smart does.
Lastly, Celtics are loaded with guards? Sure, they have Kemba, but who else are you referring to? The rest of their guards are Brad Wanamaker, Carsen Edwards, and Romeo Langford. That's not loaded at all.
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09-03-2020, 08:45 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by Eielson
Smart has NOT shot better than Caruso in every category...in fact, he has a worse effective FG%. To top that off, this is Caruso's worst year and Smart's second best year in that category. I'm not sure there is anything Smart is unquestionably better at other than guarding centers...which is not useful when the other guys on the floor include Lebron, AD, and McGee/Howard. He's also better at jumping into the stands and creating locker room drama.
I did not say the Lakers have the best system. I'm saying that Caruso fits into the Lakers system better than Smart does.
Lastly, Celtics are loaded with guards? Sure, they have Kemba, but who else are you referring to? The rest of their guards are Brad Wanamaker, Carsen Edwards, and Romeo Langford. That's not loaded at all.
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Sorry better at 3s & ft%. It matters who you can guard with the switching because of the great perimeter shooting the nba. He’s also currently locking up Siakam. Smart makes more winning plays, better passer, ball handler, rebounder, & defender.
I don’t see how you can say he fits better in the system when he averages 5, 2, & 2. So he fits by staying out of the way?
Um Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, & Gordon Hayward. Before you bring up Hayward being injured he was doing this with him in the lineup.
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09-04-2020, 04:05 AM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Um Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, & Gordon Hayward. Before you bring up Hayward being injured he was doing this with him in the lineup.
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Those are forwards.
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09-04-2020, 07:29 AM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Those are forwards.
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They play on the perimeter & Smart is the one who guards Siakam. In today’s game there is no difference between the SG & SF.
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09-09-2020, 12:14 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by Eielson
For every time he hits five 3s in a row, he misses five 3s in a row twice. He contributes, but he's nothing special.
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lol, Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens think the opposite.
Almost every player that has ever played with him thinks different.
He allows Boston to do so much on defense. Just named 1st team all defense today.
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09-09-2020, 07:02 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Almost every player that has ever played with him thinks different.
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Oh wow, you read minds?
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09-09-2020, 08:04 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Oh wow, you read minds?
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23, 11, & 10 while being all 1st team defense. Yeah keep putting him in the same sentence as Caruso.
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09-09-2020, 08:05 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Oh wow, you read minds?
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Dude, they say it publicly. To a man. They rave about what he means to the team. Have for years.
By the way, he went for 23/11/10 tonight. Yep, a triple double. Only 2 turnovers in 50 minutes of play. 6 of 11 from three. Absolute battle of a game.
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09-10-2020, 05:15 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by BCSooners
23, 11, & 10 while being all 1st team defense. Yeah keep putting him in the same sentence as Caruso.
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The fact that you both had to come on here to talk about his triple-double (only attained because the game went to double-OT) in a losing effort speaks volumes to how non-special of a player he truly is.
Remember my original comments I was criticized for earlier in this thread?
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For every time he hits five 3s in a row, he misses five 3s in a row twice.
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He followed up that impressive sequence with a 4-15 performance in a one point loss. I didn't come back on her to say "I told you so," because that performance was expected. He's been doing it his whole career.
He went 8.5/4.5/2.5 on 31.8% shooting last series. Didn't matter...the Celtics still swept the Sixers.
He's the kinda dip**** that jumps into the stands and shoves a fan for yelling at him, and then afterwards fabricates a story about being called the "N-word."
He's. Not. Special.
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09-10-2020, 05:24 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by Eielson
The fact that you both had to come on here to talk about his triple-double (only attained because the game went to double-OT) in a losing effort speaks volumes to how non-special of a player he truly is.
Remember my original comments I was criticized for earlier in this thread?
He followed up that impressive sequence with a 4-15 performance in a one point loss. I didn't come back on her to say "I told you so," because that performance was expected. He's been doing it his whole career.
He went 8.5/4.5/2.5 on 31.8% shooting last series. Didn't matter...the Celtics still swept the Sixers.
He's the kinda dip**** that jumps into the stands and shoves a fan for yelling at him, and then afterwards fabricates a story about being called the "N-word."
He's. Not. Special.
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My issue was when you compared him to Caruso.
No one is saying he’s an all star. But he’s a combo guard that does a ton of different things. He’s also 1st team all defense, can guard 4 positions & sometimes 5, and has locked up Toronto’s best player.
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09-10-2020, 06:21 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by BCSooners
My issue was when you compared him to Caruso.
No one is saying he’s an all star. But he’s a combo guard that does a ton of different things. He’s also 1st team all defense, can guard 4 positions & sometimes 5, and has locked up Toronto’s best player.
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I never said Caruso was better. Simply that he's a guy that contributes, his team will miss, but the team won't miss a beat when he leaves.
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09-19-2020, 10:33 AM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
Celtics currently imploding. Smart going full-blown psycho in the locker room.
"He's such a great teammate."
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09-19-2020, 11:57 AM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by Eielson
Celtics currently imploding. Smart going full-blown psycho in the locker room.
"He's such a great teammate."
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They blew 16 & 17 point leads and are down 0-2. Sorry he wasn’t praising the performance. Sometimes you gotta rip ass.
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09-19-2020, 04:23 PM
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Re: The “Flopper” is still up to his old tricks!
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Originally Posted by BCSooners
They blew 16 & 17 point leads and are down 0-2. Sorry he wasn’t praising the performance. Sometimes you gotta rip ass.
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I might agree with you if this were Kobe, MJ, or Lebron. Maybe even a Kemba. But the last thing you need with your season on the brink is a role player losing his mind blaming everybody else and destroying the locker room. This was not a calculated move -- this was an immature kid that still can't control his temper. At least he didn't hop into the stands this time, but perhaps he would have if they weren't in the bubble.
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