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Old 03-20-2019, 07:09 PM   #1
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May be going to Nebraska while we are stuck with Lon. That royally sucks.
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:47 PM   #2
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May be going to Nebraska while we are stuck with Lon. That royally sucks.
He wouldn't come to OU.

He was raised in Nebraska and Tom Osborne recruited him to play football. Hoiberg to Nebraska is not a reach by any means.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:08 PM   #3
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May be going to Nebraska while we are stuck with Lon. That royally sucks.
Awful for us. With as many Final Fours and titles as Fred has on his resume, I'm sure he will win several national titles there.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:17 PM   #4
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They signed him. Waiting to announce.

What a time to be a Nebraska fan.
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:24 PM   #5
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If and when it is time for a new coach we need to find the basketball equivalent of Lincoln Riley, an individual who has personal magnetism who can attract solid athletes w/o having to cheat or bend the rules.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:08 PM   #6
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He has no discipline. Had players routinely miss practice & he’d only not start them. Chicago Bulls constantly reported they had no respect for him. Had good, talented teams & has a good offense but no thank you.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:15 PM   #7
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Meh for me as well
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:34 PM   #8
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If and when it is time for a new coach we need to find the basketball equivalent of Lincoln Riley, an individual who has personal magnetism who can attract solid athletes w/o having to cheat or bend the rules.
Hmm...so Fred Hoiberg?
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:41 PM   #9
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If and when it is time for a new coach we need to find the basketball equivalent of Lincoln Riley, an individual who has personal magnetism who can attract solid athletes w/o having to cheat or bend the rules.
Who could we hire to get players like Buddy Hield and Trae Young to select OU over big name programs?

All kidding aside, I think the personal magnetism stuff can be overblown. There are tons of college basketball coaches who are great self promoters and great in front of a camera. A lot of those guys have shown theme to be pretty crappy coaches. Riley's personalities may help a bit, but the fact he is an offensive mastermind helps a lot more.
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:32 PM   #10
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If and when it is time for a new coach we need to find the basketball equivalent of Lincoln Riley, an individual who has personal magnetism who can attract solid athletes w/o having to cheat or bend the rules.
Jeff Cap..... nevermind
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:49 PM   #11
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Who could we hire to get players like Buddy Hield and Trae Young to select OU over big name programs?

All kidding aside, I think the personal magnetism stuff can be overblown. There are tons of college basketball coaches who are great self promoters and great in front of a camera. A lot of those guys have shown theme to be pretty crappy coaches. Riley's personalities may help a bit, but the fact he is an offensive mastermind helps a lot more.
That's nice and all but I was not suggesting Riley's personality traits are his only coaching qualities for it is most obvious that he knows how to game plan and utilize offensive talent.

With respect to charisma, either Kruger has the equal, less or more of it than Lincoln. I believe Riley would resonate (I hate that word) with the college aged athlete better.

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Old 03-20-2019, 10:56 PM   #12
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Hmm...so Fred Hoiberg?
You believe Riley is more,less or equal to Hoiberg's character. I did say "basketball equivalent of LR." I'll leave it at that.

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Old 03-20-2019, 11:06 PM   #13
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This is turning into a ou football board.
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:23 PM   #14
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You believe Riley is more,less or equl to Hoiberg's character. I did say "basketball equivalent of LR." I'll leave it at that.
Off the top of my head, no, I cannot think of a college basketball equivalent more similar to LR than Hoiberg.
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Old 03-21-2019, 04:22 AM   #15
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nebraska has a long way to go to be the best bball program in its own state
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Old 03-21-2019, 07:38 AM   #16
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Best case scenario hire for them though. It all starts with the coach. Basketball, on the surface, seems the easiest to turn around. 100's of good players per year, you need 2-3 of them per year.

I would like to take this opportunity to quote myself, from a thread back in 2015:

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If he stays in Ames:
He will be a mega millionaire
He will have job security for as long as he wants
He will continue to win at the college level
The fans and town will adore him
He will only have to coach 35 games a year
They will erect statues of him and probably name the damn arena after him

If he goes to the NBA:
He will be a mega millionaire
He will have job security until his first losing season, then will get fired
He may or may not win at the NBA level
The fans and town will like him only if he gets Chicago into the finals, otherwise, they will boo and hate him
He will have to coach a minimum of 82 games a year
He will, in all likelihood, not have statues erected in his honor or have the arena named after him
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Yep... it's really not a wise decision to leave such a stable, high paying job to go into the circus that is NBA coaching. There really isn't much glory in pro coaching anymore either... it's all about the players. In college, it's about the coaching. Example... People always say Duke, Coach K, etc won another championship. 10 years from now people won't say Okafor won a championship, they will say Coach K did... in the NBA, it is the opposite for the most part. It is defined by players. Kobe Bryant, Shaq, Lebron, Duncan, Parker, etc.

Also....The coach he would be replacing is the fastest coach in NBA history to win 100 games, NBA Coach of the Year, had a 62 win season, and in other years has finished 2nd and 3rd in NBA Coach of the Year voting..... AND HE IS GOING TO GET FIRED.
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Old 03-21-2019, 08:25 AM   #17
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nebraska has a long way to go to be the best bball program in its own state
A long way? Lol

They don’t have that far to go.

There are no tourney teams from Nebraska
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A long way? Lol

They don’t have that far to go.

There are no tourney teams from Nebraska
He is talking about Creighton.
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Old 03-21-2019, 08:41 AM   #19
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FWIW, Nebraska has NEVER won an NCAA tournament game.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...y/_/team1/6840

By comparison, the Creighton Bluejays have an all-time record of 12-21 in the Big Dance.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...y/_/team1/5734
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Old 03-21-2019, 08:46 AM   #20
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He is talking about Creighton.
correct they also have a great arena and have one of the best fan bases in college basketball they were 5th in Attandance last season in the country at 17,000 fans a game ..


Nebraska also has a great arena and fan base




also i doubt fred regrets going to the nba he made 25 mil guaranteed and he has said on the record that he hated recruiting
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Old 03-21-2019, 10:39 AM   #21
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I've been frustrated with LK...but no..FH is not better than LK.


unless they want to play 1/1 but then FH has his heart issue...
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Old 03-21-2019, 01:24 PM   #22
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I've been frustrated with LK...but no..FH is not better than LK.


unless they want to play 1/1 but then FH has his heart issue...
Only the purest of OU homers would agree with this take. Hoiberg was the second best coach in the Big XII during his time at ISU, and it really wasn't close.
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Old 03-21-2019, 01:59 PM   #23
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Excluding his first year he went 3rd, 4th, 3rd, and 2nd place in the Big 12. And 2nd round, 2nd round, sweet 16, and first round in the NCAA Tournament. Fastest coach to win 100 games in ISU history... Big 12 coach of the year.

I'd take Hoiberg any day of the week.
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Only the purest of OU homers would agree with this take. Hoiberg was the second best coach in the Big XII during his time at ISU, and it really wasn't close.
I guess I'm as pure as the driven snow, then.
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Old 03-21-2019, 03:20 PM   #25
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Its interesting because Hoiberg got into the Big 12 when lots of changes were happening, Missouri left (A&M, Colorado, and Nebraska left too but no real tradition), Capel would get fired a year later at OU, Rick Barnes teams at Texas were mediocre, Travis Ford did nothing special at OSU, Frank Martin would leave KSU 2 years after Hoiberg arrived but Weber has done better than most thought he would, West Virginia arrived with Huggins having to rebuild coming off 2 very good seasons and it would take 3 seasons before they were competitive again. Texas Tech and TCU were dumpster fires during those years.

Not saying he is or is not a good coach, just interesting to observe all that was going on during his 5 seasons in a 10 team league with 1 blue blood.
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