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Old 03-26-2019, 03:51 PM   #26
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I really think Kelvin might stick at UH, pretty much regardless of any offers he gets. I could really only see him taking a legit top 5-10 type job, or maybe something "back home." Though since his dad has passed away, probably not much reason to do that (ie, move nearer where he was).

He has a REALLY good thing at UH. UH took a chance on him, and let him hire the staff and support staff he wanted. They threw a bunch of money at the program. They return some pretty solid players.

I think he stays.
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Old 03-26-2019, 03:53 PM   #27
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Wow, so he won 27, 26, 23, and 18 games the last four years, and got canned? That is dumb.
Last 5 seasons:

27, 16, 26, 23, 18.

Averaged 22 wins per year over last 5. And again, lost 6 games at the wire this year with a young team.
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:36 PM   #28
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Last 5 seasons:

27, 16, 26, 23, 18.

Averaged 22 wins per year over last 5. And again, lost 6 games at the wire this year with a young team.
Also won games against Indiana (by 1), Texas St. (by 3) and lost to a terrible Texas A&M team that fired their coach as well. Even with a young team, this year could have looked that much worse as easily as it could have looked a little better.

People on here keep screaming for consistency from Kruger’s program and claim he’s “lost it” or he’s not the “right fit” because of that issue but are arguing that a guy that won 16 after a 27 win season is ok? Maybe the AD at Arkansas agrees with a lot of the posters here that feel Kruger’s time is on the way down and he feels the same about Anderson after going from 26 to 23 to 18?

I’m not saying it’s the right thing to do but it’s an argument worth making if the AD feels the program is headed in the wrong direction.

That’s with a SOS around 60 from what I could find

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Old 03-26-2019, 04:37 PM   #29
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I thought Anderson did a good job at UAB and Mizzou. That team in 08-09 was great, and the program collapsed pretty quickly after he left. Not very impressed with his work at Arkansas, though. 2 NCAA wins and 3 appearances in 8 years isn't great work. We could do worse, but we could also do a lot better. He's not a dream hire like Kelvin or Buzz.

Also Kelvin isn't going to Arkansas unless they break the bank A&M style. He's in a great spot for him, and Houston can afford to pay him. I also think he wants to pass the job on to Kellen, and there's little chance of that if he bolts for Arkansas right now.

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I really think Kelvin might stick at UH, pretty much regardless of any offers he gets. I could really only see him taking a legit top 5-10 type job, or maybe something "back home." Though since his dad has passed away, probably not much reason to do that (ie, move nearer where he was).

He has a REALLY good thing at UH. UH took a chance on him, and let him hire the staff and support staff he wanted. They threw a bunch of money at the program. They return some pretty solid players.

I think he stays.
Agreed.

Big 12: No changes to date. Really do not expect any at this time.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:02 PM   #31
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Five potential options to be Alabama's next men's basketball coach
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...ch/3275380002/

They list:
  • Thad Matta, former Ohio State HC
  • Chris Beard, Texas Tech HC
  • Gregg Marshall, Wichita State HC
  • Mick Cronin, Cincinnati HC
  • John Brannen, Northern Kentucky HC

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“Today’s climate in men’s college basketball is very unique. In fact, there are ongoing legal issues with the FBI, as well as ongoing NCAA investigations. And we don’t know how all that will play out at this point,” Byrne said. “That said, we’re going to be very thorough throughout this process. We want to make sure we keep the University of Alabama’s reputation at the forefront of what we do.”

These statements appeared to unequivocally dismiss rampant online speculation that Alabama might pursue deposed former Louisville head coach Rick Pitino. The 66-year-old Pitino is currently coaching overseas for a EuroLeague team in Greece after being fired with cause in late 2017 when he was implicated in a “pay-for-play” scandal uncovered by the FBI.

Another candidate seemingly out of the running is Iowa State's Steve Prohm, an Alabama alum that served as a manager for five years under former Crimson Tide coach David Hobbs. Prohm received a contract extension Tuesday to remain with the Cyclones through 2025.
Arkansas Tidbit: Mike Anderson and Lou Holtz are the only two coaches ever fired in football or basketball at Arkansas without a single losing season.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:20 PM   #32
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Five potential options to be Alabama's next men's basketball coach
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...ch/3275380002/

They list:
  • Thad Matta, former Ohio State HC
  • Chris Beard, Texas Tech HC
  • Gregg Marshall, Wichita State HC
  • Mick Cronin, Cincinnati HC
  • John Brannen, Northern Kentucky HC
Not sure how interested Beard, Marshall, or Cronin would be. Other two probably would be though.

Has Bama ever been good at hoops for any kind of extended period of time?
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:43 PM   #33
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I think Matta is an underrated coaching candidate. He had a bad stretch there at the end of his tOSU run, but he was phenomenal until that point.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:56 PM   #34
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Thad Matta = Rick Barnes. Sometimes, guys just need a change of scenery.
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Thad Matta = Rick Barnes. Sometimes, guys just need a change of scenery.
Was gonna call him the top Rick Barnes candidate.
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:44 PM   #36
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Man I definitely don't agree with you on that. He has been a power conference coach for 13 seasons at two programs with pretty good history, and he has made the tourney six times and only advanced past the first weekend once. I see nothing about that that indicates great, or even very good. His results would make him far worse than any OU coach in recent decades except Capel. I'm curious what it is specifically that you like about him.
Arkansas used to be a top-notch program but they haven't made the Sweet 16 in 23 years.

The people who complain about Kruger should take a look around at some of the other programs & realize that we've got it pretty good.
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Arkansas used to be a top-notch program but they haven't made the Sweet 16 in 23 years.

The people who complain about Kruger should take a look around at some of the other programs & realize that we've got it pretty good.
Just in the region I would point to Arkansas, Mizzou, Colorado, ok state, and Memphis... All in a hole.

That being said... I expect OSU to be really tough next season.
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Bama hired the Buffalo coach and UNLV has a new hire.
Still can;t understand Danny Manning having a job.
Do you think Nevada's early NCAA exit has taken some of the shine off Musselman's chances for upward mobility?
Some other programs need new blood but perhaps the buyouts prohibit changes.
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Old 03-27-2019, 07:54 PM   #39
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Bama hired the Buffalo coach and UNLV has a new hire.
Intriguing hire. Oats did very well at Buffalo.

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Me either. There might be a worse P5 coach in the country, but I sure can't think of them.
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Old 03-28-2019, 04:29 AM   #40
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I really think Kelvin might stick at UH, pretty much regardless of any offers he gets. I could really only see him taking a legit top 5-10 type job, or maybe something "back home." Though since his dad has passed away, probably not much reason to do that (ie, move nearer where he was).

He has a REALLY good thing at UH. UH took a chance on him, and let him hire the staff and support staff he wanted. They threw a bunch of money at the program. They return some pretty solid players.

I think he stays.

I'm thinking UCLA or stay put. Kelvin has proven he can win in Houston, and don't see him taking any of the available jobs outside of UCLA. The Bruins may go for a younger, dynamic hire who can recruit better than Kelvin - but I seriously doubt they will find a coach better than Kelvin. If I were them, he'd be at the top of my list.
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Just in the region I would point to Arkansas, Mizzou, Colorado, ok state, and Memphis... All in a hole.

That being said... I expect OSU to be really tough next season.
i lived in CO for 20+ years and still have friends there.....CU has a nice, young nucleus....i think they are pretty good next year. and as lousy as the Pac is....and both Zona and UCLA in bad shape....i could see CU take a big step forward in the conf.

i was kind of a Mike Anderson fan over the years....but like others said....he didn't do much at Arkansas. Arkansas football and hoops in a bad way, really.
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Five potential options to be Alabama's next men's basketball coach
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...ch/3275380002/

They list:
  • Thad Matta, former Ohio State HC
  • Chris Beard, Texas Tech HC
  • Gregg Marshall, Wichita State HC
  • Mick Cronin, Cincinnati HC
  • John Brannen, Northern Kentucky HC



Arkansas Tidbit: Mike Anderson and Lou Holtz are the only two coaches ever fired in football or basketball at Arkansas without a single losing season.
I thought Brent had one or two losing seasons?
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I thought Brent had one or two losing seasons?
Brent?
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I thought Brent had one or two losing seasons?
Iíll assume youíre referring to Bret Bielema, & yes, he did have 2 losing seasons, thus disqualifying him from that tidbit. Maybe you misread it?
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yep, misread
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Not sure how interested Beard, Marshall, or Cronin would be. Other two probably would be though.

Has Bama ever been good at hoops for any kind of extended period of time?
Wimp Sanderson had them good for several years. It was a long time ago
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Wimp Sanderson had them good for several years. It was a long time ago
Wimp was pretty funny as a TV/radio game analyst, too. a bit like Billy....wry sense of humor, knew the game.
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Wimp was pretty funny as a TV/radio game analyst, too. a bit like Billy....wry sense of humor, knew the game.
And wore some great sportcoats.

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The Mayorís a Husker:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...-huskers-coach
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:02 AM   #50
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FWIW, I was curious about the 2019 coaching turnover rate in the Power-5 conferences. So here goes.

Teams .. Conference .. Coaching Changes
15 .... ACC .... 0
14 .... B10 .... 1 (Nebraska)
10 .... B12 .... 0
12 .... PAC .... 3 (UCLA; Cal; Washington State)
14 .... SEC .... 4 (Arkansas; Alabama; aTm; Vandy)

65 .... P-5 .... 8

Did I miss anybody?

Note: Notre Dame is a full ACC participant in Basketball.
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