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Old 03-11-2019, 08:40 AM   #101
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Corey Davis Jr.'s career day puts an exclamation point on Houston's first conference title since 1992

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...corey-davis-jr

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The Cougars (29-2, 16-2) knocked off the defending champs and earned their first league title since 1992 in the Southwest Conference. Coach Kelvin Sampson got a celebratory dousing from his players afterward.

''At no point in time this year did I think we were a great team, but I thought we were a pretty good team and it showed on the road,'' said Sampson, who had a white towel draped over the back of his soaked blue shirt.

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NOTE: Oklahoma's last regular season Conference Championship was under Kelvin Sampson in 2004-05 (Tied for 1st with Kansas).

https://www.coachesdatabase.com/big-...son-champions/

NOTE: Kelvin Sampson won three (3) Big-12 Tournament Championships (2001, 2002, 2003).

https://www.coachesdatabase.com/big-...ent-champions/

QUESTION: How long will it be before Oklahoma wins another Basketball Conference Championship of any kind? It has been 14 years since the last one.
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Old 03-11-2019, 08:48 AM   #102
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Some quotes from Kelvin after the win at Cincinnati ...

"Coaches and players win games. The administration wins championships".

About staying in Houston: "You dont mess with happy and I'm happy."
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:01 AM   #103
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Corey Davis Jr.'s career day puts an exclamation point on Houston's first conference title since 1992

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...corey-davis-jr




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NOTE: Oklahoma's last regular season Conference Championship was under Kelvin Sampson in 2004-05 (Tied for 1st with Kansas).

https://www.coachesdatabase.com/big-...son-champions/

NOTE: Kelvin Sampson won three (3) Big-12 Tournament Championships (2001, 2002, 2003).

https://www.coachesdatabase.com/big-...ent-champions/

QUESTION: How long will it be before Oklahoma wins another Basketball Conference Championship of any kind? It has been 14 years since the last one.
Love Kelvin. One of the best coaches around and has been for 20+ years. That said, if OU played in the American, we would have one at least two conference regular season titles in the past 14 years, plus some conference tourneys. No team in that league would have been able to beat our 2009 and2016 teams over the course of an 18-game season.
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:19 AM   #104
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Thanks for posting SoonerTraveler!
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:20 AM   #105
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Some quotes from Kelvin after the win at Cincinnati ...

"Coaches and players win games. The administration wins championships".

About staying in Houston: "You dont mess with happy and I'm happy."
Yeah, I really don't see him going anywhere. UH might just be the perfect job to end his career with. I could see Kellen taking over for him at some point. Would love to see Kellen at OU. He seems like he'll coach just like Kelvin did/does.
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:27 AM   #106
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Yeah, I really don't see him going anywhere. UH might just be the perfect job to end his career with. I could see Kellen taking over for him at some point. Would love to see Kellen at OU. He seems like he'll coach just like Kelvin did/does.
Pass on kellen.
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:31 AM   #107
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Corey Davis Jr.'s career day puts an exclamation point on Houston's first conference title since 1992

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...corey-davis-jr




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NOTE: Oklahoma's last regular season Conference Championship was under Kelvin Sampson in 2004-05 (Tied for 1st with Kansas).

https://www.coachesdatabase.com/big-...son-champions/

NOTE: Kelvin Sampson won three (3) Big-12 Tournament Championships (2001, 2002, 2003).

https://www.coachesdatabase.com/big-...ent-champions/

QUESTION: How long will it be before Oklahoma wins another Basketball Conference Championship of any kind? It has been 14 years since the last one.
congrats to kelvin and the cougs! They would finish middle of the pack in the big 12, which is good enough to win the AAC most years.
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:34 AM   #108
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congrats to kelvin and the cougs! They would finish middle of the pack in the big 12, which is good enough to win the AAC most years.
Definitely not a middle of the pack Big 12 team. This year's Houston team is one of the 15 best in the country. They are far better than Baylor and ISU, who finished fourth and fifth this season. Houston is closer to KSU, Tech, and KU than they are to the middle of the pack.
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Definitely not a middle of the pack Big 12 team. This year's Houston team is one of the 15 best in the country. They are far better than Baylor and ISU, who finished fourth and fifth this season. Houston is closer to KSU, Tech, and KU than they are to the middle of the pack.
They have consistently won on the road and that should speak for itself.
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Old 03-11-2019, 10:37 AM   #110
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congrats to kelvin and the cougs! They would finish middle of the pack in the big 12, which is good enough to win the AAC most years.
Not true at all.
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Definitely not a middle of the pack Big 12 team. This year's Houston team is one of the 15 best in the country. They are far better than Baylor and ISU, who finished fourth and fifth this season. Houston is closer to KSU, Tech, and KU than they are to the middle of the pack.
They definitely arenít far better than ISU or Baylor but even still that would put them at 4th in the big 12. The middle of the big 12 is 4-7 so they would in fact be middle of the pack in the big 12.

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Old 03-11-2019, 11:35 AM   #112
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They definitely arenít far better than ISU or Baylor but even still that would put them at 4th in the big 12. The middle of the big 12 is 4-7 so they would in fact be middle of the pack in the big 12.
The ISU squad that finished 9-9, underachieved to a ridiculous extent, and couldn't even protect home court? Zero chance Kelvin's team wouldn't have finished ahead of them. That's the type of team Kelvin feasts on -- they have good offensive talent, lots of guys that can score, love to run and shoot, but they wouldn't have known what to do when Kelvin's team punched them in the mouth and made them try to win a game in the 50s or 60s.
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Old 03-11-2019, 11:42 AM   #113
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Our fan base wouldn't know what to do if Kelvin came back and played that same style of ball. I loved Kelvin and I loved winning, but it was still hard to watch a lot of the games.

Which is more attractive? A) Boring successfull basketball or B) More exciting above average successfull basketball?

The correct answer is C) Exciting successful basketball.
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Old 03-11-2019, 11:55 AM   #114
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Our fan base wouldn't know what to do if Kelvin came back and played that same style of ball. I loved Kelvin and I loved winning, but it was still hard to watch a lot of the games.

Which is more attractive? A) Boring successfull basketball or B) More exciting above average successfull basketball?

The correct answer is C) Exciting successful basketball.
He doesn't really play that style of ball any more. I mean, some games end up grinders, but heck, OU has been in a lot of those games under Kruger, and I don't think anybody would say he plays that style.

Houston has the 19th most efficient offense and the 15th most efficient defense in basketball (Ken Pom). They pretty regularly score in the 70's or higher. It's a "more exciting" offense than what OU has put on the court this year.
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Old 03-11-2019, 12:05 PM   #115
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He doesn't really play that style of ball any more. I mean, some games end up grinders, but heck, OU has been in a lot of those games under Kruger, and I don't think anybody would say he plays that style.

Houston has the 19th most efficient offense and the 15th most efficient defense in basketball (Ken Pom). They pretty regularly score in the 70's or higher. It's a "more exciting" offense than what OU has put on the court this year.
Well then sign me up! Lol!

I honestly don't think I've watched a Sampson coached game since he was at Indiana. Really my only criticism of him when he was here was his pace of play. He would win a game 2-0 if he could and I felt like he went to stall ball way to early in games. He's get up by 12 or so and he's have Hollis stand at half court and dribble for 27 second and IMO kill any rhythm or momentum the team had. But I loved and never questioned the teams toughness or hustle.
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Old 03-11-2019, 02:32 PM   #116
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Houston would have had a decent chance to win the Big XII this year. I would be surprised if they went worse than 12-6. Calling Houston a middle of the road Big XII team is almost as absurd as calling OU a middle of the road AAC team.
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Old 03-11-2019, 05:16 PM   #117
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I'd say that Sampson is great at programs like Washington State, OU and Houston...not so much at an Indiana or UCLA. He gets hard-nosed kids who want to work. That's not UCLA in my opinion. He is probably very happy at Houston. I would be if I were him. JUCO pipelline, etc.
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Old 03-11-2019, 05:29 PM   #118
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Actually he did very well at Indiana before the NCAA got him.
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Old 03-11-2019, 06:10 PM   #119
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Actually he did very well at Indiana before the NCAA got him.
yep, i have a buddy who is an IU grad and total Knight apologist to the point of it being silly.....at the time...and he loved Kelvin....until a little later he didn't.

i take KS at his word he's happy but i'd like to see what he could do at UCLA....and if i were UCLA i'd think about backing up the truck....as bad as the Pac is right now and U of A having some real problems with Miller....doesn't take much imagination to see a Kelvin-led Bruins as the class of the Pac in a pretty short time.

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yep, i have a buddy who is an IU grad and total Knight apologist to the point of it being silly.....at the time...and he loved Kelvin....until a little later he didn't.

i take KS at his word he's happy but i'd like to see what he could do at UCLA....and if i were UCLA i'd think about backing up the truck....as bad as the Pac is right now and U of A having some real problems with Miller....doesn't take much imagination to see a Kelvin-led Bruins as the class of the Pac in a pretty short time.
I think thatíd be a terrible fit, too many soft players in LA & weaker Jucos
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Love you, Kelvin.
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I am surprised that this thread has survived this long. I like Kelvin. Didn't want him to leave. Would have rather had a year's probation than to lose him. Of course, I have no respect for the NCAA.

But, I don't see him coming back. Who says Kruger is leaving?
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Joe will never hire Kelvin again. He won't hire anybody who has been busted by the NCAA or even implicated as cheater.
Capel's record was very close to Lon's. There is a massive difference in the type of people in our program now versus then. Don't forget Capel's staff had NCAA issues. LK is as clean as they get in basketball.

FYI sounds like Sean Miller is out at Arizona because of the shoe scandal.
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