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Old 09-20-2019, 02:29 PM   #1
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Letís hope this helps in multiple areas!

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Old 09-20-2019, 02:30 PM   #2
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:45 PM   #3
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Man you'd have to think it'll hurt them with any elite recruit. As slowly as the NCAA moves, this is unlikely to be resolved till long after 2020 kids sign.
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Oh god I’m so excited
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:59 PM   #5
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We all know there is ZERO chance the NCAA would do anything substantive to one of their cash cows. UNC was caught blatantly cheating and nothing.
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We all know there is ZERO chance the NCAA would do anything substantive to one of their cash cows. UNC was caught blatantly cheating and nothing.
Donít ruin my buzz
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:49 PM   #7
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well thatís a shame
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:17 PM   #8
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Donít ruin my buzz
The NCAA has given severe sanctions to a couple programs that have combined to win several national titles over the past two decades, so no need kill that buzz just yet. UNC wasn't a basketball-related scandal, so that's not the best comparison.
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:26 PM   #9
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We all know there is ZERO chance the NCAA would do anything substantive to one of their cash cows. UNC was caught blatantly cheating and nothing.
But the investigation being dragged out really hurt their recruiting. Kids not knowing when sanctions could come makes them scared it could happen the year they attend.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:47 PM   #10
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The NCAA is about to be sued out of existence if they try.
Typical, arrogant KU fan! Does this idiot really believe the NCAA is afraid to drop the hammer on his Jayhawks? Nothing would please me more than to see them finally get what they deserve!!
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The NCAA has given severe sanctions to a couple programs that have combined to win several national titles over the past two decades, so no need kill that buzz just yet. UNC wasn't a basketball-related scandal, so that's not the best comparison.
USC is a good comparison. A Trojan fan on the OUInsider board several years ago said his school would never be sanctioned because they were too important to the NCAA. He bragged about it, even guaranteed it would never happen.

That was before the NCAA hit USC with some of the harshest penalties ever for a major sports program. The Trojan fan never came back to face the music.

Maybe we’ll be lucky enough to see it again!
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Old 09-20-2019, 06:16 PM   #12
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being local to the hawks...nothing would please me better...but I'll believe it when I see it
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Old 09-20-2019, 06:20 PM   #13
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Gassnola testified that KU coach Bill Self was not aware of the payments.

As a result of that trial, De Sousa was given a two-year NCAA suspension. Kansas appealed the second year of the punishment and the NCAA reinstated De Sousa, who is allowed to play this upcoming season. Preston never played in a regular season game for KU.

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Old 09-20-2019, 07:28 PM   #14
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Gassnola testified that KU coach Bill Self was not aware of the payments.

As a result of that trial, De Sousa was given a two-year NCAA suspension. Kansas appealed the second year of the punishment and the NCAA reinstated De Sousa, who is allowed to play this upcoming season. Preston never played in a regular season game for KU.

nothing more will happen
The De Sousa sanction was pretty darn severe. I can't think of another kid who has had to sit an entire season for a similar situation. Look, there's no one on the planet who hopes they get hammered if/when major violations are proven more than I do. I just don't buy into the theory that the NCAA never punishes the big boys. It's just not factually true.
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Gassnola testified that KU coach Bill Self was not aware of the payments.

As a result of that trial, De Sousa was given a two-year NCAA suspension. Kansas appealed the second year of the punishment and the NCAA reinstated De Sousa, who is allowed to play this upcoming season. Preston never played in a regular season game for KU.

nothing more will happen
In the release today, they said during closing arguments bill self was directly involved in requesting payments to players. He directly asked for payments to a player.

I have no doubts bill self and KU have been cheating since he was hired. KU has been cheating for 40 years.

I have serious doubts the ncaa will do anything substantive. There will be an attempt to make it look like the ncaa cares about fair play and then, maybe a slap on the wrist. Even in the face of damning evidence, the ncaa will let KU walk. They cheated. Theyíve been cheating for years and they get away with it. But by all means, the ncaa doesnít hesitate punish OU for freaking text messages.

Itís all a farce and the ncaa has ZERO integrity.
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Old 09-21-2019, 06:47 AM   #16
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It made me smile. Anything less than a ban to the Big Dance for the following season, not this season, will be a win for Self.
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Old 09-22-2019, 08:47 AM   #17
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In the release today, they said during closing arguments bill self was directly involved in requesting payments to players. He directly asked for payments to a player.

I have no doubts bill self and KU have been cheating since he was hired. KU has been cheating for 40 years.

I have serious doubts the ncaa will do anything substantive. There will be an attempt to make it look like the ncaa cares about fair play and then, maybe a slap on the wrist. Even in the face of damning evidence, the ncaa will let KU walk. They cheated. Theyíve been cheating for years and they get away with it. But by all means, the ncaa doesnít hesitate punish OU for freaking text messages.

Itís all a farce and the ncaa has ZERO integrity.
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Old 09-22-2019, 08:51 AM   #18
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The De Sousa sanction was pretty darn severe. I can't think of another kid who has had to sit an entire season for a similar situation. Look, there's no one on the planet who hopes they get hammered if/when major violations are proven more than I do. I just don't buy into the theory that the NCAA never punishes the big boys. It's just not factually true.
c'mon Wichita....I know you've been on here a long time. ku has a LONG list of very questionable actions since Self has been there...NOTHING ever done.

KS text too many times or wrong times and we get a 'ship reduction.

I'm not saying the ncaa sits around and says "we can't hit team x big, it's bad business" BUT ya can't tell me they are not influenced by things. The blue bloods bring in a TON OF $$ via TV/tournaments/etc...it's on the table.
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Old 09-22-2019, 09:49 AM   #19
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I don't trust the NCAA to do the right thing but the man testified Self told him to get the players for him. Even if Self says he wasn't meaning money you can't have people who aren't on your staff recruit players or their reps.
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Old 09-22-2019, 09:54 AM   #20
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Regardless of what happens with KU, is this noise enough to sway Bryce to OU?
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:26 AM   #21
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Regardless of what happens with KU, is this noise enough to sway Bryce to OU?
Hopefully he was/is already leaning our way. Even if it was a tossup, you'd think it would have to sway him. As another poster noted, UNC's recruiting really suffered for a number of years while they were investigated. If a kid plans to only go to school for a year or two, I can't imagine choosing a school who may be facing the possibility of sanctions of some kind.
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Since the preseason is all about optimism let's go ahead and transfer Jalen Wilson to Oklahoma while we are at it.

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Old 09-23-2019, 02:26 PM   #23
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I realize Iím pretty much alone in thinking KU may be in serious trouble this time. But when I read an editorial like this, in the Kansas City Star of all places, it gives me hope that justice may prevail in the end. This reporter seems to believe thereís a chance.

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/e...235316472.html
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Lack of institutional control and Self implicated according to news coming out of Lawrence. They aren’t getting a wrist slap now.



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Old 09-23-2019, 05:37 PM   #25
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We need some blowback on KU.
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