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Old 05-24-2019, 11:39 AM   #1
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Not a big surprise, given how severe the original punishment was compared to similar situations.
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:44 AM   #2
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when is kansas actually going to be punished for their cheating?
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Old 05-24-2019, 01:13 PM   #3
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I think he should have been eligible immediately at any place but KU or Maryland...since they knew he was getting paid.

Why let KU benefit from cheating?
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Old 05-24-2019, 01:54 PM   #4
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Kansas & other blue bloods might never get more than a slap on the wrist.
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Old 05-25-2019, 09:14 AM   #5
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Why not just allow paying of players what you want to pay them. This is ridiculous! I know it was his handler who was paid. Oh yea the handler never gives anything to the kid. What a joke.
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:15 AM   #6
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I don't know why the NCAA insists on pretending to enforce things. They pick a couple of things every few years as a message but they continue to let schools like UK and KU snub the rules right and left to the chagrin of other schools trying to compete in a loaded field.
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:46 AM   #7
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This is a joke. KU cheated and he still gets to play for them. They’ll never be punished. Their entire program is built on cheating and paying players.

KU will be a favorite to win it all next season. If OU had done what ku has done and continues to do, We’d likely get the death penalty.

The system is rigged.
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Old 05-25-2019, 12:23 PM   #8
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This is a joke. KU cheated and he still gets to play for them. They’ll never be punished. Their entire program is built on cheating and paying players.

KU will be a favorite to win it all next season. If OU had done what ku has done and continues to do, We’d likely get the death penalty.

The system is rigged.
Such an odd phenomenon that there are so many people who are convinced the NCAA is out to get OU. Has any program, blue blood or not, been given serious sanctions as a result of the current scandal? LSU is not even close to being a blue blood and they haven't been sanctioned, either. I'll never understand why so many sports fans think referees and leagues and sanctioning bodies are actively trying to screw their team.
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Old 05-25-2019, 12:49 PM   #9
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Such an odd phenomenon that there are so many people who are convinced the NCAA is out to get OU. Has any program, blue blood or not, been given serious sanctions as a result of the current scandal? LSU is not even close to being a blue blood and they haven't been sanctioned, either. I'll never understand why so many sports fans think referees and leagues and sanctioning bodies are actively trying to screw their team.
He’s not saying the NCAA is out to get OU. Just that the blue bloods rarely get hit hard. Not only has KU been caught with De Sousa, he is now eligible.
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Such an odd phenomenon that there are so many people who are convinced the NCAA is out to get OU.
It's not an unfounded belief.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_v...ty_of_Oklahoma
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Old 05-25-2019, 02:29 PM   #11
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Lol ok, a case from 35 years ago that has nothing to do with basketball. But wait ... KU was banned from the postseason the year after winning the 1988 title...how does that fit with the theory? Or another program with loads of tradition (Louisville) recently getting hit with severe sanctions? I can't stand the NCAA, it's an awful organization. But it sucks across the board. And remember, they gave De Sousa far more severe sanctions than anyone else in this current situation. And while it wouldn't shock me one bit if he got some of the money, I also wouldn't be surprised if he didn't. His guardian seems shady af and I could easily see him keeping every dime himself.
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Lol ok, a case from 35 years ago that has nothing to do with basketball.
First off, this belief that the NCAA isn't a fan of Oklahoma didn't happen last night. Second, this case had obvious ramifications that extended beyond just football. Finally, this case cost the NCAA a fortune. KU basketball (along with the other blue bloods), on the other hand, makes the NCAA a pretty penny. If you can't see the difference in that, I'm just gonna plant a fence post and let you have at it for a few hours.
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:40 PM   #13
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First off, this belief that the NCAA isn't a fan of Oklahoma didn't happen last night. Second, this case had obvious ramifications that extended beyond just football. Finally, this case cost the NCAA a fortune. KU basketball (along with the other blue bloods), on the other hand, makes the NCAA a pretty penny. If you can't see the difference in that, I'm just gonna plant a fence post and let you have at it for a few hours.
My bad. And here I thought our football team also makes the NCAA money.
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Not really. The money for the NCAA is all from the basketball tournament. Football money is controlled by the conferences and the schools. The college football playoff doesn't say NCAA playoff. Yes all member schools help fund the NCAA but the vast majority is from the tournament.
Don't forget that OU and Georgia are the ones who took away the football money by suing for rights to televise their own games.
That being said no they don't have it out for us. They may have a bit in the 70's and 80's.

However if you think that KU isn't very shady with their dealings with shoe companies, ticket brokers(yes guys went to jail for it but KU basketball wasn't exposed as the beneficiary of those tickets being sent to AAU handlers) and other handlers you are living in a dream world. When you get away with it good for you but they were caught red handed and nothing is done. Everybody should just go ahead and pay players or their handlers.
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NCAA is toothless, and zero value add.
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Old 05-26-2019, 09:57 AM   #16
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My bad. And here I thought our football team also makes the NCAA money.
OU will always be a net negative based on that court case. It's like you forgot what we were even talking about and just wanted to post something argumentative.
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Don't forget that OU and Georgia are the ones who took away the football money by suing for rights to televise their own games.
That being said no they don't have it out for us. They may have a bit in the 70's and 80's.
Yeah, that's the link I posted earlier. It happened in 84, so it had only been about 10 years when KS took over, and about 15 years when Bob did. I'm not saying the NCAA is just sitting around in their office waiting to screw us over. I'm just saying that there was a time when we were public enemy #1, and that the idea that the NCAA doesn't like us isn't a random idea that popped out of nowhere.
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My bad. And here I thought our football team also makes the NCAA money.
You’re comparing apples and oranges. In football, the schools and TV partners take the lions share. In basketball, the NCAA takes a much bigger cut. It’s their biggest revenue. That’s why realignment is more about football, because those schools stand to make more money. In basketball, it’s the ncaa that makes more money.

Anyway, that wasn’t the point of my post that you railed on about. My biggest complaint is the NCAA is corrupt and has always showed preferential treatment and they don’t apply the same rules to all schools. They selectively enforce the rules. Ku, duke, Kentucky, UNC all buy players on the open market. They all break the rules but the ncaa looks the other way. Even when evidence surfaces, they all distract and point blame elsewhere and the ncaa claims ignorance or impotence.

I want a level playing field. OU, ku, duke, etc should all be held to the same standard and if rules are broken, punishment is handed down regardless of who it is. If paying players is ok then everyone should be allowed to pay players. That’s not what we have tho. The ncaa chooses to punish certain schools and ignore the cheating of others. Also, the media paints coach K, bill self, Calipari as such great guys who are above reproach when they’ve been cheating all this time. Kelvin was crucified for too many damn text messages and Kentucky and ku are buying players? GMAFB.

The system is broken and corrupt. That’s my complaint.
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