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Old 06-13-2019, 01:39 AM   #1
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Default Which Sooner will hit the most 3s

Which Sooner do you think will hit the most 3s and which Sooner do you think will hit the highest percentage of 3s?

Im guessing Manek will hit the most 3s (average 2.5 per game)and Reeves and Williams will hit the highest % of threes. (High 30s on percentage)

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Old 06-13-2019, 06:41 AM   #2
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Reaves and reaves.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:08 AM   #3
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Reaves by a mile on makes. I expect him to hit highest percentage, too, unless someone who shoots a lot fewer ends up shooting a great percentage.
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Old 06-13-2019, 12:10 PM   #4
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Reaves is probably the safe answer, but the question I think is more important is how many total 3's will OU hit this year.

Last year they ranked last place in the Big 12 in 3pt makes and attempts... because a bunch of the guys couldn't shoot.

Hopefully this years team is better at shooting the ball.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:03 PM   #5
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:24 PM   #6
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I have a few guesses:
1. I pick Reaves to shoot the most 3's, but teams will extend on him so he might not have the highest %.
2. I'll pick a wild card that other teams don't expect to shoot from deep very often to have the highest %. Maybe Jamal Bienemy.
3. Williams is OK but isn't a great outside shooter. He shakes and bakes his way inside a lot.
4. The 3 point line is moving from 20'9" to 21'1 3/4". That makes it a tougher shot this season.
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:26 AM   #7
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I have a few guesses:
1. I pick Reaves to shoot the most 3's, but teams will extend on him so he might not have the highest %.
2. I'll pick a wild card that other teams don't expect to shoot from deep very often to have the highest %. Maybe Jamal Bienemy.
3. Williams is OK but isn't a great outside shooter. He shakes and bakes his way inside a lot.
4. The 3 point line is moving from 20'9" to 21'1 3/4". That makes it a tougher shot this season.
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williams shot 38% from 3 in juco
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:12 AM   #8
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As I stated in the other thread, moving the line back really hurts OU. For a marginal shooter like Bienemy, that may completely take the 3 ball out of his game.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:22 AM   #9
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williams shot 38% from 3 in juco
They play defense in juco? Darion Strong shot 42% as a freshman. Believe me I'm a Williams cheerleader. I'm more excited about him than any of the newcomers because I think he's the kind of athlete we haven't seen in quite some time at OU. I think he will be a starter by the start of conference play.... ahead of Bienemy.

That said, you're actually low. He shot 37.8% from 3 as a freshman (Division 2 juco) and 40.4% as a sophomore. On the other hand he only shot 72.2% from the FT line as a freshman, and 70.1% as a sophomore. I just don't think he's a great outside shooter.

Here's an article featuring him as a possible NBA player that I haven't seen posted before.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/04/1...ms-juco-stars/
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williams shot 38% from 3 in juco
They play defense in juco? Darion Strong shot 42% as a freshman. Believe me I'm a Williams cheerleader. I'm more excited about him than any of the newcomers because I think he's the kind of athlete we haven't seen in quite some time at OU. I think he will be a starter by the start of conference play.... ahead of Bienemy.

That said, you're actually low. He shot 37.8% from 3 as a freshman (Division 2 juco) and 40.4% as a sophomore. On the other hand he only shot 72.2% from the FT line as a freshman, and 70.1% as a sophomore. I just don't think he's a great outside shooter.

Here's an article featuring him as a possible NBA player that I haven't seen posted before.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/04/1...ms-juco-stars/
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:43 AM   #11
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As I stated in the other thread, moving the line back really hurts OU. For a marginal shooter like Bienemy, that may completely take the 3 ball out of his game.
Bienemy had the best three-point shooting percentage on the team last season. As a true freshman.

I hope we have more such marginal shooters in our future.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:59 AM   #12
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Bienemy had the best three-point shooting percentage on the team last season. As a true freshman.

I hope we have more such marginal shooters in our future.
Spot on. Kind of like Kelvin used to say about Quannas -- for a guy who supposedly wasn't shooter, the ball sure seemed to go in a lot when he shot.
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They play defense in juco? Darion Strong shot 42% as a freshman. Believe me I'm a Williams cheerleader. I'm more excited about him than any of the newcomers because I think he's the kind of athlete we haven't seen in quite some time at OU. I think he will be a starter by the start of conference play.... ahead of Bienemy.

That said, you're actually low. He shot 37.8% from 3 as a freshman (Division 2 juco) and 40.4% as a sophomore. On the other hand he only shot 72.2% from the FT line as a freshman, and 70.1% as a sophomore. I just don't think he's a great outside shooter.

Here's an article featuring him as a possible NBA player that I haven't seen posted before.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/04/1...ms-juco-stars/
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Bienemy had the best three-point shooting percentage on the team last season. As a true freshman.

I hope we have more such marginal shooters in our future.
But he did average less than 5 points per game and shot 64% on FTs so it's not like he was a sniper out there last season.
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Old 06-14-2019, 11:03 AM   #15
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I could be wrong, but I actually think three point shooting may be a strength for us next season. While I agree that great three point shooters average 40% or above, I think anything over 35% is better than average.

Reaves with his 45% average is our best shooter statistically. Bieniemy led the team last year with a 40% average. Assuming he will be more of a spot up shooter with Harmon playing the point, I think there is a good chance he will be a player our opponents cannot leave open on the perimeter. JB should also benefit from having Harmon handle the ball and put pressure on defenders.

I have no idea why nearly everyone continues to overlook Jalen Hill? He had a 40% career average from three in high school. He shot 42% from three (41 of 98) as a senior last year, one of the many reasons he was named the Nevada POY.

Manek averaged 36% from three last year. If he improves his shot selection, I think he is capable of continuing that average or better. Moving the line back may actually help a player like Brady take more uncontested shots.

Williams with a 38% average is not what I would call a bad three point shooter. Assuming he makes it in, I think his ability to shoot from the perimeter as well as score off of the dribble drive will make him a legitimate threat on offense.

Harmon can score from the perimeter too. His 38% average may not be earth shattering, but leaving him open could be a mistake. I watched one of his games online last season when Trae Young was in the audience. Da’Vion put on a show by scoring 34 points and knocking down 4 shots from three point range.

None of us really know how moving the line back will effect three point shooting? I think it’s safe to assume extending the line could be a problem for some, not so much for others. But I think we will have so many average to good shooters next season, scoring from the perimeter may be a strength.
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I could be wrong, but I actually think three point shooting could be a strength for us next season.

Reaves with his 45% average is our best shooter statistically. Bieniemy led the team last year with a 40% average. Assuming he will be more of a spot up shooter with Harmon playing the point, I think there is a good chance he will be a player our opponents cannot leave open on the perimeter. JB should also benefit from having Harmon handle the ball and put pressure on defenders.

While I agree that great three point shooters average 40% or above, I think anything over 35% is better than average. I have no idea why nearly everyone continues to overlook Jalen Hill? He had a 40% career average from three in high school. He shot 42% from three (41 of 98) as a senior last year, one of the many reasons he was named the Nevada POY.

Manek averaged 36% from three last year. If he improves his shot selection, I think he is capable of continuing that average or better. Moving the line back may actually help a player like Brady take more uncontested shots.

Williams with a 38% average is not what I would call a bad three point shooter. Assuming he makes it in, I think his ability to shoot from the perimeter as well as score off of the dribble drive will make him a legitimate threat on offense.

Harmon can score from the perimeter too. His 38% average may not be earth shattering, but leaving him open could be a mistake. I watched one of his games online last season when Trae Young was in the audience. DaVion put on a show by scoring 34 points and knocking down 4 shots from three point range.

None of us really know how moving the line back will effect three point shooting? I think its safe to assume extending the line could be a problem for some, not so much for others. But I think we will have so many average to good shooters next season, scoring from the perimeter may be a strength.
Some good points here. You're right in noting that shot selection is key for Manek. With what should be more scoring options and shooters around him, he will hopefully improve in that area. He is usually accurate when he is squared up.

If the previous time that the line was moved back is a guide, I think the overall three point percentage around the country will probably drop a point or so in the first season. But some teams, hopefully including OU, will improve because they simply have better shooters than last season.
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But he did average less than 5 points per game and shot 64% on FTs so it's not like he was a sniper out there last season.
I dont think it's fair to include the first part of the season in his PPG.
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I dont think it's fair to include the first part of the season in his PPG.
Nor do I. Jamal’s biggest fault is that he didn’t shoot enough, yet he still made 27 of 61 (40 %) from three.

It should also be noted that he was a freshman playing out of position after he proved to be better at running the offense than the grad transfers our coaches brought in.

I think Jamal Bieniemy was an undeniable bright spot on last year’s team. I doubt if I’m the only one who feels that way.
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Bienemy had the best three-point shooting percentage on the team last season. As a true freshman.

I hope we have more such marginal shooters in our future.
Numbers suggest a major regression coming from 3. He’s not a good free throw shooter, which is highly predictive. I love bienemy as a player, but think he is going to struggle from deep moving forward.
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Numbers suggest a major regression coming from 3. Hes not a good free throw shooter, which is highly predictive. I love bienemy as a player, but think he is going to struggle from deep moving forward.
Disagree.

Freshmen, gym rat, smart, better HS FT shooter, that was the anomaly. Not the good 3 pt shoots. Now he may go down 2-3 points but volume will be significantly higher.
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