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Old 11-13-2017, 10:35 PM   #26
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The dumbest part of all of this is taking college kids to countries that are no friend of the US and no friend to democracy in general. If you wouldn’t send them there outside of basketball you shouldn’t send them there at all. If the charges are all true the UCLA administration and coaches are even dumber but the Universities and NCAA needs to wake up to the dangers of trips like this anyway.


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Old 11-14-2017, 01:11 AM   #27
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:44 AM   #28
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They're going home. Seems like a crapton of community service in the states and a couple game suspension should suffice, assuming these kids were first offenders.
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:06 AM   #29
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They're going home. Seems like a crapton of community service in the states and a couple game suspension should suffice, assuming these kids were first offenders.
I think it deserves more than suspension for just a couple of games.
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:08 AM   #30
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I think it deserves more than suspension for just a couple of games.
Me too since it was oversees and at multiple places
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:01 AM   #31
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Seriously? They are doomed!
and by doomed you mean that they are now on a flight to the USA instead of facing 3-10 years in prison ...
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:04 AM   #32
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Its shoplifting. Not acceptable but hopefully they learn a lesson. rich kids do it for the thrill and the adrenaline. No need for 3-10 years!

Couple games is all our players got? Football player got 1 game during the bcs bowl game a few years back.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:07 AM   #33
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I dont think they should go to prison either. Our own courts would slap them on the wrist if a charge was even filed.

But given the sheer ignorance of their move they should also not get off scot-free.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:12 AM   #34
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and by doomed you mean that they are now on a flight to the USA instead of facing 3-10 years in prison ...
Crickets... of course
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:19 AM   #35
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Crickets... of course
Actually, my first thought was he should have offered to exchange himself for the players. Win/Win for everyone.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:21 AM   #36
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Crickets... of course
By crickets you mean someone smart enough not to start a political debate on a hoops board.

Imo these players should be suspended 5-8 games for the team. Legally a ton of community service and maybe some probation. University wise probation and be on thin ice.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:02 PM   #37
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If the story is true that they shoplifted in three stores it was definitely not an impulse thing.

The should get more than a two game suspension. They disgraced their country, thier university and their fellow teammates. Suspending them for a couple of games against a couple of pushover teams is meaningless.

I am alarmed by the lack of discipline that exists in our society today. Soft treatment in this case just adds to it. I do believe that some wrongdoers can be rehabilitated but I learned a long time ago that if you ignore bad behavior you are just going to get more bad behavior. These young men could have spent years in prison in a country like China.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:27 PM   #38
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As someone who has spent a considerable amount of time in China and Japan (and has many friends from China, Japan, South Korea, et), they take crimes, even petty crimes quite seriously in Asia. They are very lucky that they weren't disciplined more severely like a typical Chinese person would have been (it appears Trump helped them out). If they are suspended 2 games that is a joke.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:40 PM   #39
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:26 PM   #40
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As someone who has spent a considerable amount of time in China and Japan (and has many friends from China, Japan, South Korea, et), they take crimes, even petty crimes quite seriously in Asia. They are very lucky that they weren't disciplined more severely like a typical Chinese person would have been (it appears Trump helped them out). If they are suspended 2 games that is a joke.
exactly. they're very lucky that trump was coming to china and that they can use the incident to their advantage with their public for the state's gain. they get to look gracious while making the US look like punks. and that makes chinese leaders happy. if trump hadn't been happening by then I bet they end up in china for a few months minimally.
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By crickets you mean someone smart enough not to start a political debate on a hoops board.

Imo these players should be suspended 5-8 games for the team. Legally a ton of community service and maybe some probation. University wise probation and be on thin ice.
They literally started the political talking.. but dont let that fact stop you
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