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Old 10-19-2019, 08:25 AM   #51
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I don't know anything about all the new guys we got coming in. Really outside of Bienemy, Doolittle, and Manek we don't have a ton of experience. It is better than what we had coming back into last year though. I think this years Big 12 will also be similar to last year where the top 8 or so are going to be pretty good. I do expect the team to at least be good but it's hard to tell how good offensively you are with not a lot of shooters returning. We got the 2 forwards coming back and a decent point guard.
Odd how many people ignore Reaves. Not only does he have a ton of experience (as much as Manek, more than JB), he is the best shooter the program has had since Buddy. Again, these are not based on things he did in high school or juco. He has proven it for two years in D-1 games. I haven't looked at every team's roster extremely closely, but off the top of my head, very few teams in the league will have four starters with that much experience. We didn't graduate any above average shooters off last year's team, and have a fantastic one coming in. But I do think it is fair to consider our overall perimeter shooting a question mark. I think they even mentioned that on the webcast of the scrimmage last week. Our athletic ability is probably ahead of our shooting at this point unless one or two of the newbies other than Reaves shoots it well.
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:03 AM   #52
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Then the NIT
This a big 12 finish prediction
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Old 10-19-2019, 04:36 PM   #53
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Since I don't think this years team is an unstoppable machine, it is much like last year which is competition dependent. They could be no better and finish higher if the league is down or lower if it's up. With my own eyes, I believe them to have many more weapons and if there is not a hole at the 5 position this will be a much stronger team. If the league is similar to last season I predict 4th or higher.
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:24 AM   #54
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This a big 12 finish prediction
Tough crowd. Canít clown UT ,on an OU mb, even with facts.
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KenPom beginning of the season rankings

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Old 10-20-2019, 09:40 AM   #56
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KenPom beginning of the season rankings
So KenPom has us 4th in the conference and 25th overall. At this point it is clear that KenPom is right and everyone else is wrong.
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:09 AM   #57
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Lunardiís early bracketology doesnít have OU or OSU making the tourney


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Old 10-20-2019, 10:58 AM   #58
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Since I don't think this years team is an unstoppable machine, it is much like last year which is competition dependent. They could be no better and finish higher if the league is down or lower if it's up. With my own eyes, I believe them to have many more weapons and if there is not a hole at the 5 position this will be a much stronger team. If the league is similar to last season I predict 4th or higher.
I agree with all of this, except I think it will be between 4th and 6th. Iím not ready to believe a team with so many new faces will finish higher than 4th.
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Old 10-20-2019, 12:42 PM   #59
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Lunardiís early bracketology doesnít have OU or OSU making the tourney


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Lunardi isn't doing anything proprietary or innovative with brackets. It's just a stupid list based on his opinion until you can start calculating "quadrant" wins and the stuff that actually determines selection. Kenpom is at least a data-driven system.
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Lunardi isn't doing anything proprietary or innovative with brackets. It's just a stupid list based on his opinion until you can start calculating "quadrant" wins and the stuff that actually determines selection. Kenpom is at least a data-driven system.


This time of year both are crap shoots


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Kenpom is at least a data-driven system.
What data could be gleaned from a season that hasn't started?
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:16 AM   #62
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OU has been in in all of his projections until this last one ..
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Old 10-21-2019, 07:26 AM   #63
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OU has been in in all of his projections until this last one ..


Yeah. He only has 4 conference teams in. We all know from past history 6 or 7 will make it.


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Old 10-27-2019, 08:12 PM   #64
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Marcus Watson was suspended from the osu team after a protective order was filed against him.
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Old 10-27-2019, 10:29 PM   #65
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Marcus Watson was suspended from the osu team after a protective order was filed against him.
Incredible how many guys they've had to suspend or dismiss in the past couple years. But man I wish our program could match the momentum Boynton's squad has on its side lol.
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Old 10-28-2019, 08:36 AM   #66
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I think Watson is Boynton's cousin or some kind of distant relative.
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Incredible how many guys they've had to suspend or dismiss in the past couple years. But man I wish our program could match the momentum Boynton's squad has on its side lol.
Lol "team on the rise, for sure"
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KenPom beginning of the season rankings

Given a large enough sample size of games, I trust Kenpom ratings over any other advanced metric(s) available. And there are some really good ones out there (if you're into that), but his system has shown exceptional consistency (as far as ranking teams) with only a few, minimal outlier teams since it was introduced years back.
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