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Old 05-20-2019, 06:17 PM   #1
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Hannah Gusters has committed to Baylor, she is the #7 ranked player in the country, according to Prospects Nation, 6’5” Post from Irving MacArthur.
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Old 05-20-2019, 07:31 PM   #2
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Old 05-21-2019, 11:37 AM   #3
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Not always, OU couldn’t sign elite players back when we were winning

This should lead Andrews to Texas, we’ll see what happens...
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Not always, OU couldn’t sign elite players back when we were winning

This should lead Andrews to Texas, we’ll see what happens...
They COULD have signed more elite (some top 10's and 20's), but they were not interested in many of them, even though the player wanted to attend OU. Water under the bridge...signing top players and winning.
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They COULD have signed more elite (some top 10's and 20's), but they were not interested in many of them, even though the player wanted to attend OU. Water under the bridge...signing top players and winning.
Will be that way until the Coales are gone.
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isnt scott a top 10 player nationally?
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But she’s the first one rated that high in quite some time.


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isnt scott a top 10 player nationally?
Scott is 10 by one service and 77 by the other, I’m guessing she’s somewhere in between...
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Scott is 10 by one service and 77 by the other, I’m guessing she’s somewhere in between...
ESPN's Hoopgurlz is considered by most to be more reliable and unbiased.
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ESPN's Hoopgurlz is considered by most to be more reliable and unbiased.
Aren't they the one who had Patterson at #6?
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I would have to agree that the ESPN hoopgurlz ranking is more accurate. Prospect Nation had Tatum V as the number 24 overall player out of her class and she was definitely not that good. They had Madi at number eight last year I believe so technically Madi is the highest ranked player we've had come in and several years, maybe since Ortiz or Aaryn E.
we don't know how good Patterson is because we've never seen her play!
I have a feeling that Gregory will impress us this next season more so than Scott does.
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Texas didn't think enough of Patterson to play her. She was on the team. I'm surprised that Kentucky wanted her when she transferred. Veitenheimer was far better.
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are you serious? You think Veitenheimer is better than Patterson? I can't argue very strongly about this because NEITHER of us got to see her play at UT. I will say that I find that very hard to believe because Tatum veitenheimer was mediocre at best and every rating system that I saw had Patterson rated well above her.
I think who Aston plays and does not play is a big mystery and I think that's why she's lost so many players to transfer lately. I don't think it necessarily means that players not good I think it's a variety of different things. who knows, she could be a lot like SC and have favorites and not play players for petty reasons. I'm assuming the Kentucky coaches know a little bit about basketball, they've had quite a good team over the years, at least better than we have had anyway; they must have seen something in Patterson that looked promising or else I doubt they would have wasted a scholarship on her, call me crazy. Also, didn't SC go after Patterson pretty hardcore? If memory serves correct she did indeed.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:37 PM   #15
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http://stats.ncaa.org/player/index?g...er_seq=1954247

It is too easy to look these things up than to argue about which you don''t know. First, I live in Texas and get LHN and see most of Texas' games. Secondly, I saw her in some AAU games and made more than one post indicating that she wasn't as good as her rankings. Thirdly, she was recruited as a 3-point specialist, and shot 22% from three, averaging 2.79 PPG. She hardly played at all as a sophomore, one game. She was also supposed to be a quick point guard. She may have been the slowest point taken by any school in the Big Twelve.

I think that Hale had a post saying that she was being recruited by OU. Remarkably, I don't remember anyone that he ever said we were recruiting coming to OU. I think he didn't respect Sherri, and it was returned.
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Everybody is so hyped on Texas and Baylor. Yet with all the talent in the world, they do nothing with it. I will agree Coale can't recruit. Although it has gotten better. Yet, if she had the talent of Baylor or Texas. She would have the team in the final 4 every year.
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Everybody is so hyped on Texas and Baylor. Yet with all the talent in the world, they do nothing with it. I will agree Coale can't recruit. Although it has gotten better. Yet, if she had the talent of Baylor or Texas. She would have the team in the final 4 every year.
True. I wonder how much Jan's illness and some other issues contributed. You only need to miss a year or two.
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Everybody is so hyped on Texas and Baylor. Yet with all the talent in the world, they do nothing with it. I will agree Coale can't recruit. Although it has gotten better. Yet, if she had the talent of Baylor or Texas. She would have the team in the final 4 every year.
Mulkey just won her 3rd natty & was a 5 point loss @ Stanford from an undefeated season. Dislike her all you want (& make no mistake, she's not one of my favorites) but that's not nothing. I'm as loathe as anyone on this board to give the devil her due, but what happened, happened.
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Everybody is so hyped on Texas and Baylor. Yet with all the talent in the world, they do nothing with it. I will agree Coale can't recruit. Although it has gotten better. Yet, if she had the talent of Baylor or Texas. She would have the team in the final 4 every year.

I wonder the same thing myself. We don't bring anywhere close to the same amount of talent they do, especially Texas, and yet they barely beat us. I know the recruiting part is SCs fault. Imagine if she actually grabbed these players that Aston does? I know they few times we've had comparable talent we've done well, although this was almost a decade ago now when I believe SC was hungrier. Only time will tell how things developed now that we have a bit more talent than previous years. I still think we need a talented big girl in order to get back there, and looks like we may not have one again this coming year, unless we have a very late addition. Fingers crossed!
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I wonder the same thing myself. We don't bring anywhere close to the same amount of talent they do, especially Texas, and yet they barely beat us. I know the recruiting part is SCs fault. Imagine if she actually grabbed these players that Aston does? I know they few times we've had comparable talent we've done well, although this was almost a decade ago now when I believe SC was hungrier. Only time will tell how things developed now that we have a bit more talent than previous years. I still think we need a talented big girl in order to get back there, and looks like we may not have one again this coming year, unless we have a very late addition. Fingers crossed!
Considering both signing dates have passed and we're durn near to June...you should probably cross your fingers, toes, arms, legs and eyes. However...keep hope alive!
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Old 05-22-2019, 10:58 AM   #21
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Righton about the talent waste at Texas. Along with the head coaches at UCLA and North Carolina Aston is one of the biggest talent wasters in womans basketball.

But don't put Baylor in that category. They get great talent and have totally dominated the Big 12 and just won the big one. I don't care for Mulkey either but she has brought a team from doormat level to one of the best year after year.
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I think the question of how good of a coach Mulkey is becomes irrelevant. She might be a good pro coach. But, the university is a learning situation, and I question anyone who values anything that she teaches. We have had national writers in the world of ESPN sports question whether she was good for basketball. She certainly is not good for women in an academic setting.

I think the Baylor endowment is actually larger than OU's. Last I saw a listing, they had about a billion more. What, exactly, does Baylor teach? The sports facilities that they have built in recent years would be such that Jerry Jones might be jealous. Yet, they have almost no credibility academically. Their entire football staff and university president had to be terminated (against the wishes of the Baylor alums) to avoid, perhaps, the death penalty due to their concealment of how many rape cases?

I really had high hopes for Mulkey after the 2005 title. Then, one of the key players left, telling of her betrayal by Kim. I think her lack of integrity has been cited in two books now by her players. It is interesting that three or four starters, including Sophia Young, returned from that team, only to suffer three straight losses to an OU team that had added a rather key player. Seasoned national champions, and they couldn't win one? Even when they fouled her while she was out of bounds without it being called intentional?

Kim is a pretty good coach. But, if she is what the future of women's college basketball is, include me out. I think women's sports survive because they are different from men's sports. The girls actually go to class, get degrees, graduate. The guys hope to go to the NFL or NBA after their rookie years. Lot of underclassmen in the draft. Not a lot are regarded highly for their academics. Women are still a little bit about college..
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Righton about the talent waste at Texas. Along with the head coaches at UCLA and North Carolina Aston is one of the biggest talent wasters in womans basketball.

But don't put Baylor in that category. They get great talent and have totally dominated the Big 12 and just won the big one. I don't care for Mulkey either but she has brought a team from doormat level to one of the best year after year.
Exactly...and it just burns my hide every time OU and baylor play as of late. Well, the last 9 years or so. I remember when OU 2005-2010 was committed to beating baylor if they didn't beat anyone else. Now mulkey is grinning and licking her chops with her "big ole post players" (as she referred to them). I'm sure she had a "Come to Jesus Meeting" (they are a Christian college, right?) and vowed that if she couldn't beat them (Paris' and Olajuwon), then join them...well, she went and got some mobile strong post of her own. OU's post gave baylor more than they bargained for. And I will always believe CParis was robbed of a opportunity to be a 4 time Big 12 POY. She owned SYoung her freshman year. She should have won both FOY and POY...if that's possible. I'd love to see the Paris' and Olajawon sit right near her bench during a game. She might get distracted with PTSD and blow the game. Well, probably not until OU gets some "big ole post" again.
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I think the question of how good of a coach Mulkey is becomes irrelevant. She might be a good pro coach. But, the university is a learning situation, and I question anyone who values anything that she teaches. We have had national writers in the world of ESPN sports question whether she was good for basketball. She certainly is not good for women in an academic setting.

I think the Baylor endowment is actually larger than OU's. Last I saw a listing, they had about a billion more. What, exactly, does Baylor teach? The sports facilities that they have built in recent years would be such that Jerry Jones might be jealous. Yet, they have almost no credibility academically. Their entire football staff and university president had to be terminated (against the wishes of the Baylor alums) to avoid, perhaps, the death penalty due to their concealment of how many rape cases?

I really had high hopes for Mulkey after the 2005 title. Then, one of the key players left, telling of her betrayal by Kim. I think her lack of integrity has been cited in two books now by her players. It is interesting that three or four starters, including Sophia Young, returned from that team, only to suffer three straight losses to an OU team that had added a rather key player. Seasoned national champions, and they couldn't win one? Even when they fouled her while she was out of bounds without it being called intentional?

Kim is a pretty good coach. But, if she is what the future of women's college basketball is, include me out. I think women's sports survive because they are different from men's sports. The girls actually go to class, get degrees, graduate. The guys hope to go to the NFL or NBA after their rookie years. Lot of underclassmen in the draft. Not a lot are regarded highly for their academics. Women are still a little bit about college..
It's not like OU hasn't any ladies leaving the program, oh that's right its always the fault of the player. KM is a darn good coach other than that I couldn't care less what she does or does not do. I had high hopes for SC too..
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I think the question of how good of a coach Mulkey is becomes irrelevant. She might be a good pro coach. But, the university is a learning situation, and I question anyone who values anything that she teaches. We have had national writers in the world of ESPN sports question whether she was good for basketball. She certainly is not good for women in an academic setting.

I think the Baylor endowment is actually larger than OU's. Last I saw a listing, they had about a billion more. What, exactly, does Baylor teach? The sports facilities that they have built in recent years would be such that Jerry Jones might be jealous. Yet, they have almost no credibility academically. Their entire football staff and university president had to be terminated (against the wishes of the Baylor alums) to avoid, perhaps, the death penalty due to their concealment of how many rape cases?

I really had high hopes for Mulkey after the 2005 title. Then, one of the key players left, telling of her betrayal by Kim. I think her lack of integrity has been cited in two books now by her players. It is interesting that three or four starters, including Sophia Young, returned from that team, only to suffer three straight losses to an OU team that had added a rather key player. Seasoned national champions, and they couldn't win one? Even when they fouled her while she was out of bounds without it being called intentional?

Kim is a pretty good coach. But, if she is what the future of women's college basketball is, include me out. I think women's sports survive because they are different from men's sports. The girls actually go to class, get degrees, graduate. The guys hope to go to the NFL or NBA after their rookie years. Lot of underclassmen in the draft. Not a lot are regarded highly for their academics. Women are still a little bit about college..
Before you decide to write, why don’t you do some research. That football stuff you are talking about, have you seen the news lately? The young man won the case and is entering the undrafted free agents. We just live in a society where you are guilty until proven innocent. It’s really sad that humans have become this way.

As far as Chasity Patterson goes, you couldn’t be more wrong but this is something that you are used to (being wrong) and when you see her play this year, you will eat those words. It had nothing to do with any of the kids, it was all on Karen Aston and her inability to coach.

Do yourself a favor, and stop saying you are watching games, when you know you haven’t. If you are watching these AAU games, you have no clue what you are watching.
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