Let's say OU drops the next 3 games

thebigabd · 02-11-2018, 06:03 PM

Let's say, hypothetically, OU loses at #7 Texas Tech, loses at KU, and loses to Texas at home.... They go into the KSU game in Norman 16-11, 5-8 in the Big 12....

Is OU in the field of 64 if the season ended that day? Of course, they have 3 very winnable games after that, but if the season ended after the KU game would OU get in?

oudna · 02-11-2018, 06:17 PM

If today’s seedings are accurate, yes. Still easily in.

usedtobe1 · 02-11-2018, 07:07 PM

I think they need 20 wins

oudna · 02-11-2018, 07:15 PM

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I think they need 20 wins

To get in the tourney? I’d say 18 would be a lock.

usedtobe1 · 02-11-2018, 09:57 PM

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To get in the tourney? I’d say 18 would be a lock.

So finishing 18-13, and losing 11 of their last 15 games gets them in the tournament? Two times a team with an 18-14 record made the tournament with an at-large selection but not since 2011.

sperry · 02-11-2018, 10:19 PM

We need to beat Texas at home, no excuses there. Would also be nice to steal one of the two big road games. We haven't shot well as a team in a long time, so we're bound to turn that around and just bury someone with 3s. Would love if that happened in Lawrence to keep them from the conference championship.

oudna · 02-11-2018, 10:53 PM

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So finishing 18-13, and losing 11 of their last 15 games gets them in the tournament? Two times a team with an 18-14 record made the tournament with an at-large selection but not since 2011.

If the info released today is accurate, yes.

WichitaSooner · 02-11-2018, 11:14 PM

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So finishing 18-13, and losing 11 of their last 15 games gets them in the tournament? Two times a team with an 18-14 record made the tournament with an at-large selection but not since 2011.

It doesn't matter when you win or lose. The committee no longer factors in how you play over your last 10 games. Based on today's seedings, OU would have to lose 5 or 6 more games to even get close to the bubble.

WaymanFan · 02-12-2018, 05:14 AM

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So finishing 18-13, and losing 11 of their last 15 games gets them in the tournament? Two times a team with an 18-14 record made the tournament with an at-large selection but not since 2011.

I stated in another thread that 18 wins (assuming 8-10 in conference play, not 7-11 with a win in the conference tournament) gets OU a double-digit seed - which means they would in essence be "on the bubble". However, 19 wins (again, not assuming a 7-11 conference record and a conference tournament run) definitely puts us in. We just have too many quality wins to not get in at that point.

DenverSooner · 02-12-2018, 04:56 PM

Would you want to play OU as an 11 or 12 seed?

califca · 02-12-2018, 07:55 PM

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Would you want to play OU as an 11 or 12 seed?

I see OU finishing 19 or 20-10.

stormspencer · 02-12-2018, 08:07 PM

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I stated in another thread that 18 wins (assuming 8-10 in conference play, not 7-11 with a win in the conference tournament) gets OU a double-digit seed - which means they would in essence be "on the bubble". However, 19 wins (again, not assuming a 7-11 conference record and a conference tournament run) definitely puts us in. We just have too many quality wins to not get in at that point.

This right here. Because of our non-conference wins and SOS (not to mention our conference wins and no bad losses), we would have to collapse (7-11 in conference) to be considered even close to the wrong side of the bubble. People tend to forget that there are now 68 teams that make the tournament.....thus making an already weak bubble list even weaker. If you don't believe me, just take a look at the resumes for teams like USC, Syracuse, UCLA and Louisville. You will then realize we are a long way from the bubble at this point in time. Heck, we know that KU and Tech have warts and are vulnerable because we beat them....and those teams are on the 2/3 seed line.

Having said that, we definitely need to snap out of our funk.

mict085 · 02-12-2018, 08:14 PM

If OU loses at home to Texas, they’re in big trouble. 18 win teams are bubble teams and that leaves you wide open to being left out. OU needs to win all 3 home games and steal a road win somewhere to be safely in.

WichitaSooner · 02-12-2018, 08:25 PM

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If OU loses at home to Texas, they’re in big trouble. 18 win teams are bubble teams and that leaves you wide open to being left out. OU needs to win all 3 home games and steal a road win somewhere to be safely in.

This isn't even close to true. We just lost six of eight and dropped two seed lines. You really think that going 3-3 in our last six would drop us seven seed lines to put us on the bubble? If we split our last six with two of the losses on the road to top 10 caliber teams, we'll probably be around a six seed, which is not remotely close to the bubble.

mict085 · 02-12-2018, 08:54 PM

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This isn't even close to true. We just lost six of eight and dropped two seed lines. You really think that going 3-3 in our last six would drop us seven seed lines to put us on the bubble? If we split our last six with two of the losses on the road to top 10 caliber teams, we'll probably be around a six seed, which is not remotely close to the bubble.

I didn’t say OU going 3-3, I said if they lose at home to Texas and they’re in trouble, likely only 18 wins. 18-12 and OU is on the bubble. That’s what I said and it’s true.

opsooner · 02-12-2018, 09:17 PM

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Would you want to play OU as an 11 or 12 seed?

If I am a coach and my team can play defense, then yes. Because I know I will get plenty of easy buckets. And if I have a big who can defend the rim then even better. And I feel very good in a close game down the stretch.

But if my team plays questionable D then no. However, I doubt that team will be highly seeded.

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WichitaSooner · 02-12-2018, 09:22 PM

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I didn’t say OU going 3-3, I said if they lose at home to Texas and they’re in trouble, likely only 18 wins. 18-12 and OU is on the bubble. That’s what I said and it’s true.

You said they need to win all three home games and steal a road win to be safely in, which means you think they need to win 4 of their last 6. In any event, I don't even agree that 18-12 would be bubble, but hope not to find out.

califca · 02-12-2018, 11:02 PM

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You said they need to win all three home games and steal a road win to be safely in, which means you think they need to win 4 of their last 6. In any event, I don't even agree that 18-12 would be bubble, but hope not to find out.

Tech, Kansas and Baylor more than likely are losses. K- State,Iowa State and Texas. Got to win the rest of our home games and a Tourney gameIMO. If we don’t pick up our defense and rebound theirs not a team left that can’t beat us.

oudna · 02-12-2018, 11:44 PM

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Tech, Kansas and Baylor more than likely are losses. K- State,Iowa State and Texas. Got to win the rest of our home games and a Tourney gameIMO. If we don’t pick up our defense and rebound theirs not a team left that can’t beat us.

If we did that we would probably be a 6 seed.

I think everyone understands every Big 12 team can beat us, and vice versa.

DenverSooner · 02-13-2018, 12:06 AM

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Tech, Kansas and Baylor more than likely are losses. K- State,Iowa State and Texas. Got to win the rest of our home games and a Tourney gameIMO. If we don’t pick up our defense and rebound theirs not a team left that can’t beat us.

I think OU can win all of those games. I sure hope the players agree.

OU gave away the OSU and ISU games with horrible first halves. The loss at Texas was unacceptable in my opinion. OU controlled that game and did not finish.

Horrible first half defense lost the WVU game at home.

TINY · 02-13-2018, 11:44 AM

Say, and remember this is just a hypothetical, thebigabd stopped posting about terrible jucos who ou didn’t offer. Would the board be a better place?