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Old 05-13-2022, 09:52 AM   #1
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How do OU football coach Brent Venables & other Sooners feel about new NCAA NIL guidelines?
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DUNCAN — Brent Venables is all for players benefitting from their name, image, and likeness.

“I think it’s really cool that we have finally wised up and created a small space for that,” the OU football coach said Thursday at the OU Coaches Caravan stop at the Stephens County Fairgrounds.

“And with good intention. I just hope that at some point in time, it gets to where there’s some equality to it, there’s some sense, and that we’re not prostituting kids. I wouldn’t give an open credit card to any of my kids, you know, so why would you write a blank check — and that’s not what the intention of the rule was.”

The NCAA’s Division I Board of Directors published guidelines earlier in the week that clarified that boosters — which include so-called “collectives” that provide players from a particular school with endorsement deals — should not have contact with recruits, their families or their representatives before the player signs.

One such collective is the recently announced 1Oklahoma, which has Barry Switzer as one of its main faces.

Sooners women’s basketball coach Jennie Baranczyk said the new guidelines wouldn’t change much inside the athletic department.

“We’re in the weeds right now, and it’s a little bit chaotic,” Baranczyk said. “Do the guidelines help us? I don’t know. I think the really special thing is I think the way that Oklahoma has approached this has been really, really great. So the guidelines haven’t changed much for us. … We’re keeping our ethics as high as we possibly can, and I think that’s really important.”

Baranczyk said it’s been “the Wild, Wild West” through the first 10 ½ months since NIL deals were allowed.

Venables likened it to bowling without bumpers.

“When you put the bumpers on there, it keeps the ball out of the gutter, right?” Venables said. “So you know, I think we need the bumpers or it’s going to be a train wreck. Maybe it already is. … It’s an out-of-control locomotive.”

Venables said one of his biggest concerns about NIL was making sure his players were prepared for the tax issues and other financial considerations.

“We’re going to work really hard to educate our guys financially,” Venables said. “The financial literacy piece is incredibly important, whether that’s taxes or an LLC, certainly how to invest money, how to open a bank account.

“Just to be smart and mindful that the IRS will punch you and find you, and you will go to prison, OK, if you don’t follow these rules. So with all the backdoor stuff, the same people that are involved in some of the stuff that shouldn’t be going on and going to be the same people that have no skin in the game when these kids are faced with tax evasion, and that’s sad really. And that’s going to happen. Like, that’s right on down the road. It’s on the front of that hood on that car to where we’re going. So we’re trying to do what we can to help our guys in being an industry leader in that space.”

Sooners men’s basketball coach Porter Moser said he hoped guidelines would help level the playing field.

“There’s got to be some balance,” Moser said. “I think everybody thinks it was time to have the student-athletes be able to capitalize on this, and I think it’s a good thing. But what are the guardrails gonna be? And then there were no guardrails, and then it just opened up. Now, I think they’re trying to step back, but I think like anything, we’ll figure it out. We will navigate through it. … Eventually it’s got to get to the point where it’s even, that it’s not just so out of whack with the competition, and I think that’s where it’s got to go. But that roadmap is very, very fuzzy right now.”

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Here’s some other notes from the Duncan caravan stop:

► Venables talked of the first time he heard that the OU job was coming open. He was on a run when Thad Turnipseed, who is now with Venables in Norman, texted. “Lincoln to USC?” Turnipseed texted, though Venables wasn’t sure it was real. “I thought he was trying to project.” When Venables got home, his wife asked if Joe Castiglione had called. “I still was not presumptuous like, ‘I’m going to get the job,'” Venables said.

► Venables said he and his staff receive weekly social-media reports on high-level recruits, which includes green marks for acceptable content and red for questionable content. Venables said red marks don’t necessarily disqualify a player from being recruited by the Sooners. “Everybody deserves some grace, but for us, that’s an alarm — let’s check that and look a little further.”

► Venables spoke again about the “fantasy camp” for donors that will take place beginning a few days into training camp, that includes sitting in on meetings, team meals and other team activities. While no price was listed or mentioned, Venables said the camp wouldn’t come cheap.

► Moser and Baranczyk both said OU’s new streaming agreement with ESPN+ was a big upgrade over the current third-tier rights package with Bally Sports. Moser called the addition “amazing” while Baranczyk said it was “huge.” “I think it’s a statement, again, for just the visual impact that this brand — the OU brand — has from every program,” Baranczyk said. “I think it’s great for all of us. Yes, it will benefit women’s basketball, but it’s definitely going to benefit all of us.”

► Moser said his team will play three exhibition games this season in Barcelona and Paris, which will include the benefit of extra practices leading up to the departure. Baranczyk’s team will also be doing a similar stint that includes games in Paris.

► Moser said he took his team to an OU softball practice recently. “Just touch their arms or something, maybe through osmosis we’ll get something,” Moser said. Moser said some of his players stood in against some of the Sooners’ pitchers. “The best we got was a foul ball,” Moser said.

► Moser talked of the importance of building a strong atmosphere at Lloyd Noble Center, and of his tour of OU fraternities and sororities to try to drum up support. “Hell, I learned beer pong at my age,” Moser said. “I’ll do anything to get the fans in there.”

► Moser said he would sing the seventh-inning stretch at Chicago’s Wrigley Field on June 4 for the ninth time. The Cubs are 7-1 when Moser leads the stretch.

► Baranczyk talked about her signing class, especially adding 6-foot-3 forward Beatrice Culliton of Overland Park, Kansas. The Sooners were lacking size last season. “I was kind of done being the tallest player on the team,” Baranczyk said. Baranczyk said Culliton would make an immediate impact in the middle for the Sooners.
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:13 PM   #2
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I like that Porter took the players to see the Softball team. All they need to do is look at the intensity that they play with and learn from their approach.
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:34 PM   #3
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Nice that he noted the upgrade from Bally. 🤣
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I like that Porter took the players to see the Softball team. All they need to do is look at the intensity that they play with and learn from their approach.
Not saying they can’t learn from the softball team but intensity was not the problem last year under moser. The problem was talent and Moser is rectifying that as we speak.
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Not saying they can’t learn from the softball team but intensity was not the problem last year under moser. The problem was talent and Moser is rectifying that as we speak.
I think there were issues with intensity at times. I couldn't stand to watch that performance in Austin again if you bought me a steak dinner accompanied by all the gimlets I could drink. And if memory serves, the game in stillwater was just about as bad.
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I think there were issues with intensity at times. I couldn't stand to watch that performance in Austin again if you bought me a steak dinner accompanied by all the gimlets I could drink. And if memory serves, the game in stillwater was just about as bad.
Yeah there were moments if you cherry pick but they played their tails off 95% of the season. They kept playing hard when the fans gave up on them mid way through conference. They simply didn’t have the horses. No one who could make a big shot at the end of the game.
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Yeah there were moments if you cherry pick but they played their tails off 95% of the season. They kept playing hard when the fans gave up on them mid way through conference. They simply didn’t have the horses. No one who could make a big shot at the end of the game.
I agree that year’s team generally played with effort. While the team did not have generational talent, there was enough talent to win against most teams. I think that if Porter can get players in his system for multiple years, OU will routinely find itself playing in the Sweet 16.
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I like that Porter took the players to see the Softball team. All they need to do is look at the intensity that they play with and learn from their approach.
You really think this? You seriously don't think this, right?

It's softball.
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You really think this? You seriously don't think this, right?

It's softball.
Just when I think you finally “get it,” you make a clueless post to prove me wrong!
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Just when I think you finally “get it,” you make a clueless post to prove me wrong!
That's clueless? I just don't think you learn "toughness" from watching baseball, nor softball. Baseball has dudes playing for 20 years like Bartolo Colon. Was he tough? Softball has some overweight players out there pitching or hitting. I don't think players can learn toughness from such soft sports.
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That's clueless? I just don't think you learn "toughness" from watching baseball, nor softball. Baseball has dudes playing for 20 years like Bartolo Colon. Was he tough? Softball has some overweight players out there pitching or hitting. I don't think players can learn toughness from such soft sports.
Yeah worse than clueless.

What a clown statement.
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SMH.....

OU softball #1 in the nation because they are soft???

Those players are playing under pressure every game....there's enough talent that no one can coast or they will lose their starting spot!!
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Yeah worse than clueless.

What a clown statement.
Yep. He continues to prove what I have said all along. He’s not a Sooner fan, he’s a troll!

Why would a Sooner fan insult one of the the most successful sports program on OU’s campus—a sport that has won three of the past five WCWS crowns and five national titles (2000, '13, '16, '17, '21)? He would know that this year’s team has been ranked #1 in the country all season, and that they are set to defend their title with a 54-2 record, 35 of those wins ended in a run rule.

There’s a whole lot more I could add, but why bother with someone who is so clueless he failed to recognize that Sooner softball fans are anything but “soft,” and that this team deserves our utmost respect for representing OU in a way that even our most passionate opponents admire. If he had watched this team play he would know they compete at the highest level possible in every game!

Trolls don’t look for a reason to praise success, they look for an excuse to criticize even the most successful programs of a school they pretend to support! To me, that’s the very definition of a TROLL!
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It's one thing to have no interest in a sport, and quite another to rail against it, all the while loudly demonstrating one's ignorance of it--and on a board for fans of a university whose program in that sport has been the best in this century.

Toughness is not just physical, it's also (even primarily, I would say) mental. And baseball and softball players deal with injuries and fatigue and play through pain all the time.

Imagine suggesting that, to name just one example, Taylon Snow is not tough. During last year's WCWS, after she dislocated her finger sliding her into third base, she refused to leave the game and had the trainer pop her finger back into place so she could play on. She ended up scoring the tying run and the Sooners went on to win that game.

Trolls seek attention in any way they can. There is nothing they won't say or do to turn attention to themselves and they don't mind--they even enjoy--negative attention. I knew early on we had a troll in our midst. After 30 years in online communities of various types, I can spot them a mile away. I blocked this troll very early during his tenure on this board, but of course I still see his posts quoted in the other posters' responses. He's lucky I'm not an admin; he'd have been gone long ago.
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That's clueless? I just don't think you learn "toughness" from watching baseball, nor softball. Baseball has dudes playing for 20 years like Bartolo Colon. Was he tough? Softball has some overweight players out there pitching or hitting. I don't think players can learn toughness from such soft sports.
Bartolo Colon would beat you in any athletic endeavor you chose. One of the hardest throwers around in his early days, then adjusted and stuck around and won while throwing in the 80s as a guy in his 40s. Also far more athletic than you’d guess. So yes, anyone who can get out big leaguers into his 40s, with far below average stuff, is pretty tough in my book.

Also, I bet if you played one week of big league baseball, you’d be unable to get out of bed for a few days. You’ve now shown yourself to not only be a joke when it comes to college basketball, but clueless when it comes to sports in general.
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Yep. He continues to prove what I have said all along. He’s not a Sooner fan, he’s a troll!

Why would a Sooner fan insult one of the the most successful sports program on OU’s campus—a sport that has won three of the past five WCWS crowns and five national titles (2000, '13, '16, '17, '21)? He would know that this year’s team has been ranked #1 in the country all season, and that they are set to defend their title with a 54-2 record, 35 of those wins ended in a run rule.

There’s a whole lot more I could add, but why bother with someone who is so clueless he failed to recognize that Sooner softball fans are anything but “soft,” and that this team deserves our utmost respect for representing OU in a way that even our most passionate opponents admire. If he had watched this team play he would know they compete at the highest level possible in every game!

Trolls don’t look for a reason to praise success, they look for an excuse to criticize even the most successful programs of a school they pretend to support! To me, that’s the very definition of a TROLL!
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Bartolo Colon would beat you in any athletic endeavor you chose. One of the hardest throwers around in his early days, then adjusted and stuck around and won while throwing in the 80s as a guy in his 40s. Also far more athletic than you’d guess. So yes, anyone who can get out big leaguers into his 40s, with far below average stuff, is pretty tough in my book.

Also, I bet if you played one week of big league baseball, you’d be unable to get out of bed for a few days. You’ve now shown yourself to not only be a joke when it comes to college basketball, but clueless when it comes to sports in general.
Yeah, because baseball sucks in general you got in your feelings. MLS is on pace to pass baseball in ratings in 3 years. How's that make you feel? This man talking about one of the fattest and laziest players of all time in baseball being athletic. I can't with older dudes on here. I just can't.

I bet you thought CC Safathia was athletic too? Give me a break.

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SMH.....

OU softball #1 in the nation because they are soft???

Those players are playing under pressure every game....there's enough talent that no one can coast or they will lose their starting spot!!
It's a soft sport in general. It's called softball for crying out loud.
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Yep. He continues to prove what I have said all along. He’s not a Sooner fan, he’s a troll!

Why would a Sooner fan insult one of the the most successful sports program on OU’s campus—a sport that has won three of the past five WCWS crowns and five national titles (2000, '13, '16, '17, '21)? He would know that this year’s team has been ranked #1 in the country all season, and that they are set to defend their title with a 54-2 record, 35 of those wins ended in a run rule.

There’s a whole lot more I could add, but why bother with someone who is so clueless he failed to recognize that Sooner softball fans are anything but “soft,” and that this team deserves our utmost respect for representing OU in a way that even our most passionate opponents admire. If he had watched this team play he would know they compete at the highest level possible in every game!

The ratings for baseball have gone down every year the past 10 years.

Trolls don’t look for a reason to praise success, they look for an excuse to criticize even the most successful programs of a school they pretend to support! To me, that’s the very definition of a TROLL!
I literally stated I don't like baseball nor softball numerous times. I guess admitting you don't like certain sports means it's trolling now? Yikes.

See this is the problem with weirdo's on message boards. When they don't like your opinion on things, it equals trolling. Na. I just watch basketball and football because those other two other sports are boring and awful to watch. Pretty simple. Plus, basketball and football generate 10X the revenue those others do, but yeah. This is called "trolling." Give me a break.

Anyway, baseballs going to fall below MLS in ratings, and Softball isn't even top 10 in American viewership for sports in this country. But hey, if you guys want to talk about toughness with other sports and those two, and think it equates to "learning toughness" be my guest.

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Yeah, because baseball sucks in general you got in your feelings. MLS is on pace to pass baseball in ratings in 3 years. How's that make you feel? This man talking about one of the fattest and laziest players of all time in baseball being athletic. I can't with older dudes on here. I just can't.

I bet you thought CC Safathia was athletic too? Give me a break.
Pretty sure I’m younger than you. Certain I’m smarter and more knowledgeable about sports. And would love to see Colon whip your sorry a** in any athletic event.
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