NIL News - New Non-Profit Called '1Oklahoma' - Page 2

BoulderSooner · 04-24-2022, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Eielson

How could OU football possibly survive if they had to pay 4-5M to the players making them money? Would need to be a multi-million dollar business.

well played

soonersailor · 04-24-2022, 02:56 PM

You just can't help yourself, can you BSG?

Thanks for the post, Wayman.

Eielson · 04-24-2022, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TarheelstateSooner

It's coming from Donors that's how.

**over his head**

TarheelstateSooner · 04-25-2022, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Eielson

**over his head**

I can see that. All good though.

TarheelstateSooner · 04-25-2022, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Eielson

How could OU football possibly survive if they had to pay 4-5M to the players making them money? Would need to be a multi-million dollar business.

I do find it funny people keep thinking the school is paying for this stuff.

WTSooner · 04-25-2022, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TarheelstateSooner

I do find it funny people keep thinking the school is paying for this stuff.

Who thinks that in this thread? I specifically referenced the general public and businesses.

TarheelstateSooner · 04-25-2022, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WTSooner

Who thinks that in this thread? I specifically referenced the general public and businesses.

Not you. I meant in general. There have been other posts on other sites where people thought the University was helping pay for this stuff.

dahldennsull · 04-25-2022, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WTSooner

We'll see. $50k per player, per year, means they are going to have to get their hands on roughly $4.25M per year, for football alone. Add in other sports and operating costs, and I'll just say, we'll see. That's a pretty decent amount of coin in the state of Oklahoma. I do work for/with a lot of not-for-profits in the state of Oklahoma. Generating contributions and other income from the general public or businesses is tough sledding.

And if one of the things the NCAA/Feds do in terms of regulation is to make money coming from boosters illegal, than Switzer being associated with this will be a no go as well.

I'm glad we're doing something. I just think some folks are jumping to the wrong conclusions on this. No way paying an entire team $50k per player per year is sustainable. That is probably more than something like 25-40% of the people living in the state make themselves, working an actual job.

i was told the casinos (chickasaw - Riverwind/Winstar) are going to play a MAJOR role in this. Will help massively in securing annual funds as a foundation

dahldennsull · 04-25-2022, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AnotherSoonerInTX

Based on another thread on this board, apparently the Chickasaws and other tribes are going to get involved with NIL. If they're involved with 1Oklahoma, the money will be there.

I presume priority is based on desire and demand. Football and men's basketball are at the front of the line since they have a high profile and generate revenue. Softball is right behind them because they are currently so dominant, and the entire fan base is on board with them.

Hopefully, NIL deals for the other sports will happen, as well. Women's basketball has been successful, and bounced back very well this year. Gymnastics (both women's and men's) is a national powerhouse. Golf and tennis are doing well. Wrestling is an OU tradition that has slipped in recent years.

sorry, missed this before replying

WTSooner · 04-25-2022, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dahldennsull

i was told the casinos (chickasaw - Riverwind/Winstar) are going to play a MAJOR role in this. Will help massively in securing annual funds as a foundation

If the tribes get involved, that obviously changes things a bit. Those folks print money. Still be interesting to see the long-term effect. Maybe they bring in some players to do some advertisements. Is that really going to generate extra income for them? Maybe, maybe not. Also interesting to see if how the NCAA feels about the athletes being involved with a "gambling" entity. Not that the tribes have to tie to their advertisements directly the casinos, but I imagine they will.

dahldennsull · 04-25-2022, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WTSooner

If the tribes get involved, that obviously changes things a bit. Those folks print money. Still be interesting to see the long-term effect. Maybe they bring in some players to do some advertisements. Is that really going to generate extra income for them? Maybe, maybe not. Also interesting to see if how the NCAA feels about the athletes being involved with a "gambling" entity. Not that the tribes have to tie to their advertisements directly the casinos, but I imagine they will.

i questioned it quite a bit, but what I was told was basically this:

a) they are fans of OU football too
b) OU athletics bring a LOT of people to Norman during the year, more opportunity for Riverwind visits and hotel stays
c) more eyes on successful teams get more eyes on their already existing advertising partnership with OU.

there are tangible and intangible reasons for them to get involved.

Dr Sleep · 04-26-2022, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dahldennsull

i was told the casinos (chickasaw - Riverwind/Winstar) are going to play a MAJOR role in this. Will help massively in securing annual funds as a foundation

Plus the casinos will have an opportunity to win some of it back. I sure they will want the players to stop by the casinos for promotions (and gambling for those of age).

mostly tongue in cheek

sheepdogs1 · 04-26-2022, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dahldennsull

i questioned it quite a bit, but what I was told was basically this:

a) they are fans of OU football too
b) OU athletics bring a LOT of people to Norman during the year, more opportunity for Riverwind visits and hotel stays
c) more eyes on successful teams get more eyes on their already existing advertising partnership with OU.

there are tangible and intangible reasons for them to get involved.

Spot on. There are numerous businesses which would profit if their local college teams thrived. Those in the sports apparel sector would obviously benefit.

WaymanFan · 05-04-2022, 07:26 AM

I know it’s football-related but it is still scary NIL news. Longhorns WR Xavier Worthy was offered 7-figures to transfer. He is staying which indicates Texas ponied-up to keep him. The Pittsburgh Panthers are filing tampering charges for losing their WR. This is way out of hand. The good news with basketball (I guess) is that if a player is that good after one year, he’ll just go right to the NBA.

skyvue · 05-04-2022, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WaymanFan

I know it’s football-related but it is still scary NIL news. Longhorns WR Xavier Worthy was offered 7-figures to transfer. He is staying which indicates Texas ponied-up to keep him. The Pittsburgh Panthers are filing tampering charges for losing their WR. This is way out of hand. The good news with basketball (I guess) is that if a player is that good after one year, he’ll just go right to the NBA.

Not necessarily. When Pack got so much money for transferring to Miami, one of the Hurricanes' top players (I forget his name) made a stink, demanding similar benefits (and I think he got them).

TarheelstateSooner · 05-04-2022, 07:58 AM

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Not necessarily. When Pack got so much money for transferring to Miami, one of the Hurricanes' top players (I forget his name) made a stink, demanding similar benefits (and I think he got them).

He did get them. It was Wong by the way.

allday92 · 05-04-2022, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WaymanFan

I know it’s football-related but it is still scary NIL news. Longhorns WR Xavier Worthy was offered 7-figures to transfer. He is staying which indicates Texas ponied-up to keep him. The Pittsburgh Panthers are filing tampering charges for losing their WR. This is way out of hand. The good news with basketball (I guess) is that if a player is that good after one year, he’ll just go right to the NBA.

The National Player of the Year returned to college cause his NIL deal was likely going to be more than his rookie salary..

WaymanFan · 05-04-2022, 08:15 AM

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The National Player of the Year returned to college cause his NIL deal was likely going to be more than his rookie salary..

Point taken…didn’t even think about that. This really is turning into one giant mess in a hurry.

I wish the NCAA listened to the likes of Barry Switzer many years ago. If they just gave these guys a stipend, I’m not sure we’d be in this mess.

TarheelstateSooner · 05-04-2022, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WaymanFan

Point taken…didn’t even think about that. This really is turning into one giant mess in a hurry.

I wish the NCAA listened to the likes of Barry Switzer many years ago. If they just gave these guys a stipend, I’m not sure we’d be in this mess.

Basketball wise. Every UNC player returned for bumped up NIL as well.

WichitaSooner · 05-04-2022, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TarheelstateSooner

He did get them. It was Wong by the way.

Actually the booster told him that he wouldn't renegotiate the deal he already made with Wong. Said he would help him try to find other NIL deals, but he didn't just match the deal he gave Pack.

BoulderSooner · 05-04-2022, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TarheelstateSooner

Basketball wise. Every UNC player returned for bumped up NIL as well.

were would they have gone??

TarheelstateSooner · 05-04-2022, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BoulderSooner

were would they have gone??

Other schools? Love was a 2nd rounder. He was the only player being Draft worthy that I know of. Oscar T was a borderline second rounder as well.

WaymanFan · 05-04-2022, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TarheelstateSooner

Other schools? Love was a 2nd rounder. He was the only player being Draft worthy that I know of. Oscar T was a borderline second rounder as well.

During the 20th century, UNC was basically NBA-U. However, I can’t think of the last UNC player who became an NBA All-Star caliber player. If the answer is Vince Carter, he was drafted in the previous century…so it would hardly be surprising if they don’t have any high-end players the NBA is drooling over. If they’re getting even decent NIL deals, no reason for them to go anywhere.

WichitaSooner · 05-04-2022, 10:41 AM

WSU just fired their AD. They may not publicly say this, but his failure to have NIL plans in place is almost certainly the biggest reason.

TarheelstateSooner · 05-04-2022, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WaymanFan

During the 20th century, UNC was basically NBA-U. However, I can’t think of the last UNC player who became an NBA All-Star caliber player. If the answer is Vince Carter, he was drafted in the previous century…so it would hardly be surprising if they don’t have any high-end players the NBA is drooling over. If they’re getting even decent NIL deals, no reason for them to go anywhere.

Correct. Not recently has UNC been worth a damn in producing NBA All-Stars. The closest they've gotten is Harrison Barnes. However, they have had players drafted a ton over the years. Which accounts for something. Same for Duke, Kentucky, etc.