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Old 04-19-2019, 09:18 PM   #1
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Trice is leaving K-State. I have no desire to check KSU message boards, but I wonder if he gets slammed by their fans as much as our role players like Polla and Freeman.
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Trice is leaving K-State. I have no desire to check KSU message boards, but I wonder if he gets slammed by their fans as much as our role players like Polla and Freeman.
Coach Kruger had better try to get him to come to Norman, or we'll never hear the end of it.
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Old 04-20-2019, 08:01 AM   #3
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I've also read that Khavon Moore entered the portal and is leaving Tech.

I was surprised to see that.
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:36 AM   #4
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I've also read that Khavon Moore entered the portal and is leaving Tech.

I was surprised to see that.
Confirmed by several online sources:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...ransfer-portal
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Old 04-20-2019, 10:20 AM   #5
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I've also read that Khavon Moore entered the portal and is leaving Tech.

I was surprised to see that.
Yeah, they only have a couple returnees for next year. That is very surprising.
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I've also read that Khavon Moore entered the portal and is leaving Tech.

I was surprised to see that.
Wasn’t he the one crutch tweeted at TT coaches?
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Wasn’t he the one crutch tweeted at TT coaches?
I think it was about Iwaukor but Khavon was in the mix as well.
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Old 04-20-2019, 08:19 PM   #8
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I honestly think this whole portal thing is going to end up being not a great thing. Course it's the sign of the times...don't like how things are going? Move on....

I do think if coaches leave that kids should have a chance without penalty to do something...they commit to a coach as much as a school..
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:52 PM   #9
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I honestly think this whole portal thing is going to end up being not a great thing. Course it's the sign of the times...don't like how things are going? Move on....

I do think if coaches leave that kids should have a chance without penalty to do something...they commit to a coach as much as a school..
Too much fluidity. Its already a bad thing imo
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Old 04-20-2019, 10:13 PM   #10
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It's the least the NCAA can do. Let them play in the best situation for them.
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Old 04-20-2019, 10:31 PM   #11
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The portal doesn't change anything. It's literally just a technology platform that connects the players with coaches, which was already legal just not unorganized. Nothing is different, it's just headlines now read "Austin Trice has entered the transfer portal" instead of "Austin Trice will transfer."
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:17 AM   #12
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The portal doesn't change anything. It's literally just a technology platform that connects the players with coaches, which was already legal just not unorganized. Nothing is different, it's just headlines now read "Austin Trice has entered the transfer portal" instead of "Austin Trice will transfer."
Thank you! This has nothing to do with the portal and everything to do with kids these days wanting immediate gratification.

Btw, khavon, how is Lubbock (aka the asshole of America) treatin ya?
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:10 PM   #13
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The portal doesn't change anything. It's literally just a technology platform that connects the players with coaches, which was already legal just not unorganized. Nothing is different, it's just headlines now read "Austin Trice has entered the transfer portal" instead of "Austin Trice will transfer."
Yup. The only change is that the NCAA is offering hardship waivers out like candy -- at least in football. Which I think is a good thing. If the NCAA isn't going to compensate players, at least let them utilize the NCAA for their greatest benefit. Don't make a senior at Kentucky settle for 5 shots a game when he could get 12 shots a game at OU, or 10 minutes a game at Duke when he could get 30 at Oregon.
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They are athletes and students... Not slaves. Let them choose where they play without consequence.
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Old 04-21-2019, 07:45 PM   #15
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The game becomes a lot less fun if they are allowed to constantly move around. Already seeing some of that with the increase in grad transfers and all the hardship waivers. I'm not against kids transferring, and I'm not against letting them do it without penalty in some cases. But letting them move around basically at will would kill the sport.
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But letting them move around basically at will would kill the sport.
You and I definitely agree on this. Imagine if a university was building its basketball program and making gradual improvements every year. The 4-5 year head coach (just an example) kills it with a banner recruiting class...then bolts to another program and takes his recruiting class with him. That could set the university he's leaving back 5, maybe 10 years depending on the situation...way too much anarchy for my liking.
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You and I definitely agree on this. Imagine if a university was building its basketball program and making gradual improvements every year. The 4-5 year head coach (just an example) kills it with a banner recruiting class...then bolts to another program and takes his recruiting class with him. That could set the university he's leaving back 5, maybe 10 years depending on the situation...way too much anarchy for my liking.
This sounds a lot like the labor market....

"I am trying to build a company, and when I didn't give my employees what they wanted or they weren't happy here they left for some other company. This set me back because I then had to hire and retrain someone else!!! How unfair!"
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This is essentially slavery in the labor market, yet you want to apply that to amateur athletics?
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This sounds a lot like the labor market....

"I am trying to build a company, and when I didn't give my employees what they wanted or they weren't happy here they left for some other company. This set me back because I then had to hire and retrain someone else!!! How unfair!"
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This is essentially slavery in the labor market, yet you want to apply that to amateur athletics?
Apples...oranges.
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Apples...oranges.
Care to elaborate?

Also, aren't scholarships a 1 year deal?
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Apples...oranges.
Anytime somebody says this with no rebuttal you know you made a good point and they can't counter it.
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You and I definitely agree on this. Imagine if a university was building its basketball program and making gradual improvements every year. The 4-5 year head coach (just an example) kills it with a banner recruiting class...then bolts to another program and takes his recruiting class with him. That could set the university he's leaving back 5, maybe 10 years depending on the situation...way too much anarchy for my liking.
Doesn't that happen already? It pretty much happened with KS, though none of them followed him to Indiana. Roy Wiliams took Hansborough with him to UNC if I remember correctly. The idea of coaches routinely bringing more than 1-2 guys with them to their new job seems overly dramatic. I'm sure that Self would have loved to bring Brown and Williams with him to KU, but he wasn't going to import half of a roster. If it became an issue, the NCAA could easily pass a rule that states that a school can't receive more than 2 transfer from one school in a given year, and that would take care of that.
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Care to elaborate?

Also, aren't scholarships a 1 year deal?
There isn't a point in elaborating because there are so few comparisons you can make between the corporate world and playing college basketball. I've been in the corporate world for 35 years...never thought of following my boss to another job because he/she left the company. And if I did, the company I was leaving wouldn't have all these restrictions about who they have to hire to replace me and when...unless you also want to equate the NCAA with the Board of Directors. We'll just agree to disagree on this one.
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Anytime somebody says this with no rebuttal you know you made a good point and they can't counter it.
Yeah, that must be it...I was just so blown away by someone's sophisticated response, I had no rebuttal.
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There isn't a point in elaborating because there are so few comparisons you can make between the corporate world and playing college basketball. I've been in the corporate world for 35 years...never thought of following my boss to another job because he/she left the company. And if I did, the company I was leaving wouldn't have all these restrictions about who they have to hire to replace me and when...unless you also want to equate the NCAA with the Board of Directors. We'll just agree to disagree on this one.
BS....

Players leave for other reasons than just coaches... Just like employees leave for reasons other than management, pay, etc.

You have no reasonable argument here. You want the player to sign 4 years away regardless of what happens to him. There could be dozens of reasons... Home sickness, broken promises, not fitting in, change of scenery, recruited over, academic issues, made a bad decision up front, etc..

Freedom to choose is always the answer.
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You have no reasonable argument here. You want the player to sign 4 years away regardless of what happens to him. There could be dozens of reasons... Home sickness, broken promises, not fitting in, change of scenery, recruited over, academic issues, made a bad decision up front, etc..

Freedom to choose is always the answer.
Whoa...I never said a player has to stay 4 years at a school if he doesn't like it...never made that argument. I'm just not for total anarchy of having players transfer whenever and wherever they want and play immediately. It could severely damage a non-blue blood basketball program for non-BS reasons already stated. It just doesn't interest me...and like WTSooner said, I think it would ruin the game.

While I'm sure you can make comparisons to the corporate world, just like you can make comparisons to a pie eating contest or a children's Christmas play to college basketball, it's all apples and oranges.


The bottom line is that some people are in favor of serial transferring and some aren't...you are and I'm not.

Off topic, I'm typing this while watching Blake Griffin play on one leg and giving it his all against the Bucks...quite an inspiration.
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