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Old 11-28-2019, 09:57 AM   #1
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https://wkusports.com/sports/womens-...20?path=wbball

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Old 12-02-2019, 01:03 PM   #2
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Starters:

6-4 Jr F Raneem Elgedawy
6-1 Sr F Dee Givens
5-11 Soph G Meral Abdelgawad
5-7 Jr G Sherry Porter
5-8 Sr G Whitney Creech

Western Kentucky is all about their five starters. Their reserves have played only about 350 of 1400 minutes, or 25% of the time.

Their guards can hit the three, but shoot it so little that it accounts for only 25% of their scoring (approx). Their leader in points and rebounds is Elgedawy. With Elgedawy and Abdelgawad, they have a very successful recruiting line in Egypt.

It is difficult to get an idea of how strong they are. They are 5-2, having lost to Louisville and Saint Mary's. Saint Mary's is not exactly a powerhouse, and they did play them in Moraga, CA. They killed WKy from three, and they managed six more rebounds. They also do not commit a lot of turnovers.

Their downside is that they have had mediocre opposition, at best. But, they are unbeaten at home.

Two problems:
we are not good on the road (yet?)
they are tall.
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Old 12-02-2019, 01:25 PM   #3
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12/2 realtimerpi

#25 Oklahoma State
#34 TCU
#75 Oklahoma (projected record, 16-14)(projected rpi 44)
#76 Kansas
#90 West Virginia
#127 Baylor
#147 Texas Tech
#148 Texas
#162 Iowa State
#188 Kansas State


#262 Prairie View A&M
#244 UAB
#2 Missouri State
#134 Stephen F. Austin
#116 Houston
#16 Abilene Christian
#176 Wichita State
#46 Western Kentucky
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:44 PM   #4
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I expect this to be difficult simply because of Elgedawy. Her height may give us more problems than we can handle unless someone learns to block out. Otherwise, they are a decent team that we should beat in Norman. On the road? We didn't do well in Wichita.

Brian Brinkley is on the air.

We played according to our game plan against Wichita. They burned us with threes. We didn't have that in our game plan.

While we are playing W. Kentucky, Wichita State will be playing Missouri State. That game should prove interesting.

We will be trying to get a stop on the first possession to set a tone.

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Old 12-04-2019, 05:54 PM   #5
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Lemon back
Llanusa
Robertson
Simpson
Williams

It helps that Lemon is back. But, Mandy probably will have trouble.
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:28 PM   #6
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Tatum actually starts

2-0 Ana
4-0 Made 2 FTs
5-0 Ana
4-2 they hit two FTs
7-2 Robertson
7-4
5:10
9-4 Gregory
9-6 Elgedawy
12-6 Ana
12-8 3:47 elgedawy time out, FT after time out 12-9 hit it
14-9 Ana
14-10 FT by Skinner
Robertson is 0-3 from 3
14-12 two FTs by Porter
16-12 Lampkin
End of quarter

We didn't play well, in some foul trouble
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:36 PM   #7
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Tatum actually starts

2-0 Ana
4-0 Made 2 FTs
5-0 Ana
4-2 they hit two FTs
7-2 Robertson
7-4
5:10
9-4 Gregory
9-6 Elgedawy
12-6 Ana
12-8 3:47 elgedawy time out, FT after time out 12-9 hit it
14-9 Ana
14-10 FT by Skinner
Robertson is 0-3 from 3
14-12 two FTs by Porter
16-12 Lampkin
End of quarter

We didn't play well, in some foul trouble

Losing in the 2nd. Our posts are getting pushed around and do not know at all what they are doing. We look like a high school team out there to be honest. Same old same old. Luckily they are not very athletic and I don't see them beating us unless we have 40 turnovers.. it's not looking pretty right now, very sloppy so far. 15 TOs and counting

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Old 12-04-2019, 06:38 PM   #8
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Looks like SHerri and gang been working on those nasty turnovers
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:52 PM   #9
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Wichita State leads Missouri State 16-12.

16-15 Givens hits three after Ana TO
16-18 Givens hits another three
18-18 Lampkin
18-20 Elgedawy
Time out OU 7:43 Lemon comes out after some ill-advised passes

18-22 Creech after Tatum turnover
20-22 Lampkin

22-22 FTs by Gregory
22-24 Elgedawy
24-24 Ana
24-26 Elgedawy
24-29 after a Tatum turnover
26-29 Lampkin
26-31 Creech
28-31 Lampkin
30-31 Gregory just before buzzer

OU leads in rebounds but has 18 turnovers. Tatum and Madi have four each. Lampkin is five of five from the field.
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:57 PM   #10
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TO
OU 18 Wky 13

Reb
OU 14 Wky 13

three pointers
OU 1-9 WkY 3-10

Cut down on TO just a bit.

Hit a three.

Wichita State 25
#22 Missouri State 29 halftime
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Old 12-04-2019, 07:00 PM   #11
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Bit disappointed in Madi and Tatum. They aren't helping and are making turnovers. If Madi helps, it changes things.

Mandy, Madi, and Gregory with two fouls.
Elgedawy, Givens, Abdelgawad, Pouye, and Skinner with two fouls

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Old 12-04-2019, 07:21 PM   #12
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OU girls making a statement...change needs to be made tonight...before the start of the 4th quarter
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Old 12-04-2019, 07:31 PM   #13
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30-33 Abdel
30-35 Givens as Taylor missses a three
30-37 Creech after Gregory to
30-40 after Madi turnover, Porter
32-40 Ana
32-42 Creech
6:44 OU time out---what is wrong with Madi?

Murcer and Simpson are shooting?
32-44 Elgedawy
32-46 Creech
34-46 Ana
34-49 Porter for three
34-51 Givens two FTs on Taylor foul
34-52 Givens after Ana foul
37-52 Taylor FINALLY
They made 8 straight shots from the field
37-54 Elgedawy after Lampkin foul
40-54 Taylor
Gregory turnover on offensive foul
42-54 Gregory
45-54 Taylor
Taylor misses a three
Lemon turnover
45-56 Givens

end of three Horrible quarter 15-25
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:04 PM   #14
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end of 3
wichita state 40
Missouri State 45

Need for Ana and Madi to show up to help Taylor. Need a point who doesn't turn it over. That last two hurt. Instead of cutting it to 7, we trail by 11.

45-58 Elgedawy
47-58 Madi
Lemon turnover
50-58 Gregory on old-fashione dthree 8:06
53-58 Madi on an old-fashioned three 7:33
Tatuum miss layup
53-59 Givens
56-59 Ana
56-62 Elgedawy for three
Madi turnover, Ana foul (4) 56-63 Gvens
Madi turnover
58-63 Ana
4:35 Mandy fouls (3), time out, OU turnovers 27 WKY 19 FT good 58-64
Taylor miss, Mandy OR, tatum turnover!!!!held ball
4:04
58-67 Creech old fashioned threee
Lampkin miss

60-67 madi
60-69 abdi
Ana three point miss
60-70 FT
Gregory and Taylor miss threes
60-72 FTs Creech
Madi----her tenth turnover
Taylor misses three
63-72 Taylor
Gregory turnover
63 74 FTs


Ana and Dee fouled out
Final

31 turnovers-----WHY? I may get irritated eventually if I see no effort to correct TO.

Our point guards are doing nothing right. Four assists, 8 turnovers.

We should have fun against LSU playing this way at their house.
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:04 PM   #15
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31 turnovers.. beyond bad..Should make Sherri pay back 40% of her salary for the last three years
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31 turnovers?!! Absolutely no positives to take away from this game. This team actually has gotten worse each game they've played. We might in fact when less games than last season! But, I'm sure SC still has job security. Who cares if our program is an embarrassment, right?
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end of 3
wichita state 40
Missouri State 45

Need for Ana and Madi to show up to help Taylor. Need a point who doesn't turn it over. That last two hurt. Instead of cutting it to 7, we trail by 11.

45-58 Elgedawy
47-58 Madi
Lemon turnover
50-58 Gregory on old-fashione dthree 8:06
53-58 Madi on an old-fashioned three 7:33
Tatuum miss layup
53-59 Givens
56-59 Ana
56-62 Elgedawy for three
Madi turnover, Ana foul (4) 56-63 Gvens
Madi turnover
58-63 Ana
4:35 Mandy fouls (3), time out, OU turnovers 27 WKY 19 FT good 58-64
Taylor miss, Mandy OR, tatum turnover!!!!held ball
4:04
58-67 Creech old fashioned threee
Lampkin miss

60-67 madi
60-69 abdi
Ana three point miss
60-70 FT
Gregory and Taylor miss threes
60-72 FTs Creech
Madi----her tenth turnover
Taylor misses three
63-72 Taylor
Gregory turnover
63 74 FTs


Ana and Dee fouled out
Final

31 turnovers-----WHY? I may get irritated eventually if I see no effort to correct TO.

Our point guards are doing nothing right. Four assists, 8 turnovers.

We should have fun against LSU playing this way at their house.
You still think we have the right woman running the program right now?
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:07 PM   #18
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31 turnovers?!! Absolutely no positives to take away from this game. This team actually has gotten worse each game they've played. We might in fact when less games than last season! But, I'm sure SC still has job security. Who cares if our program is an embarrassment, right?
Well the ones that can make a change doesn't care, all the fans can do is stay home...oh wait
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:10 PM   #19
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31 TO's 10 by Madi. Enough said!
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T r a i n w r e c k!
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You still think we have the right woman running the program right now?
I do NOT think you will get better in Norman. In women's basketball, there was nothing before Sherri, and we may have nothing after Sherri. Don't take it for granted that you can get a young firebrand in here that can recruit the top five players and take us to the Finals.

Sherri has a better reputation in women's sports than OU does. Forget about softball and gymnastics. Different recruits, different number of teams. Not all teams do these. Equestrian beats out gymnastics in Kansas State and TCU.

Sherri has shown that she can build. She did it, and she did it in a place that offered very little support for women's sports. It is more likely that she can rebuild it than you can bring in another coach who will.

Have you noticed anyone replacing Ceal Berry, Marsha Sharp, and Judy Conradt?
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:17 PM   #22
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Missouri State 68 Wichita State 55
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:17 PM   #23
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31 turnovers.... Sherri's teams love to force those passes over the past decade. Sad that everyone in the arena except for the player with the ball realizes that when a player is guarded well certain passes or attempts wont end well...
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I do NOT think you will get better in Norman. In women's basketball, there was nothing before Sherri, and we may have nothing after Sherri. Don't take it for granted that you can get a young firebrand in here that can recruit the top five players and take us to the Finals.

Sherri has a better reputation in women's sports than OU does. Forget about softball and gymnastics. Different recruits, different number of teams. Not all teams do these. Equestrian beats out gymnastics in Kansas State and TCU.

Sherri has shown that she can build. She did it, and she did it in a place that offered very little support for women's sports. It is more likely that she can rebuild it than you can bring in another coach who will.

Have you noticed anyone replacing Ceal Berry, Marsha Sharp, and Judy Conradt?
Why does it need the rebuild? Who was in charge when things went south?
I'll take my chances on another coach
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31 turnovers.. beyond bad..Should make Sherri pay back 40% of her salary for the last three years
Does she have anymore kids she could hire?
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