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Old 06-30-2020, 04:55 PM   #4926
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Yes Oklahoma is doing a good job testing right now.
A positive comment?

Who are you and what have you done with our steve? lol
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Old 07-01-2020, 10:45 AM   #4927
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16 states are either pausing or rolling back re-opening.... Kevin Stitt, Ron Desantis, and some of these other morons are really looking bad now. More and more Republicans who did nothing but downplay from their positions of leadership are now encouraging masks and precautions.

On average, more than 1,000 Americans die every day from the disease.

"You got a lot of people in your profession (the media) who waxed poetically for weeks and weeks about how Florida was gonna be just like New York. Just wait, Florida is gonna be next, you said. Well hell, we are now 8 weeks away from that and it hasn't happened!"
-Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) on May 20th, 2020

Fast forward a few weeks.....

Florida has recorded more than 5,000 new COVID-19 cases per day since last Wednesday. On Saturday, the state documented its highest single-day increase with 9,585 new cases... Today (Wednesday July 1st), they have reported nearly 7,000 new cases.

And Trump is basically absent here... He doesn't want to talk about Covid anymore. He's surrendered. His latest tweets as 1,000 Americans per day die, and thousands upon thousands get sick:

"NYC is cutting police funding!!!"

"Biden read his responses from a teleprompter!"

"The Russian bounty story is a complete hoax!"

"WOW! Record growth in Q2! Under Biden, your 401k's will plunge!!"

"My executive order to protect statues is in full force!"

"I will veto the bill of Elizabeth "Pocahantas" Warren that wants to change the names of military bases from Confederate heroes because we won two world wars with people trained in those bases!"

(you can't be ****ing serious with that logic, by the way... but he is)

Next Tweets:

A picture of himself

"THE LONE WARRIOR!"

"Congrats to Fox and Friends for dominating the morning talk show ratings!"

"Can't believe how bad CNN has done in the latest ratings!"

"Happening Fast!" (in reference to market gains)

"Congratulations to Lauren Boebert on a great win!"

"I know better than anyone that my friend Roger Ailes died 3 years ago, and just look at what happened to Fox News! We miss you Roger!"

"at the request of many great Americans who live in the suburbs, I am studying the AFFH housing regulation"

"This is a battle to save the heritage, history, and greatness of our country!" (talking about Confederate monuments)

"As I watch the pandemic spread, I become more and more angry at China. People can see it, and I can feel it!"

This is just pure insanity.... and all of you people who support this guy will say "geez, why are you paying attention to what he says?".... "you shouldn't be listening to him"..... "you have too much time on your hands if you are reading his twitter feed".... etc... Just keep burying your head in the sand people.
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Old 07-01-2020, 11:03 AM   #4928
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16 states are either pausing or rolling back re-opening.... Kevin Stitt, Ron Desantis, and some of these other morons are really looking bad now. More and more Republicans who did nothing but downplay from their positions of leadership are now encouraging masks and precautions.

On average, more than 1,000 Americans die every day from the disease.

"You got a lot of people in your profession (the media) who waxed poetically for weeks and weeks about how Florida was gonna be just like New York. Just wait, Florida is gonna be next, you said. Well hell, we are now 8 weeks away from that and it hasn't happened!"
-Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) on May 20th, 2020

Fast forward a few weeks.....

Florida has recorded more than 5,000 new COVID-19 cases per day since last Wednesday. On Saturday, the state documented its highest single-day increase with 9,585 new cases... Today (Wednesday July 1st), they have reported nearly 7,000 new cases.

And Trump is basically absent here... He doesn't want to talk about Covid anymore. He's surrendered. His latest tweets as 1,000 Americans per day die, and thousands upon thousands get sick:

"NYC is cutting police funding!!!"

"Biden read his responses from a teleprompter!"

"The Russian bounty story is a complete hoax!"

"WOW! Record growth in Q2! Under Biden, your 401k's will plunge!!"

"My executive order to protect statues is in full force!"

"I will veto the bill of Elizabeth "Pocahantas" Warren that wants to change the names of military bases from Confederate heroes because we won two world wars with people trained in those bases!"

(you can't be ****ing serious with that logic, by the way... but he is)

Next Tweets:

A picture of himself

"THE LONE WARRIOR!"

"Congrats to Fox and Friends for dominating the morning talk show ratings!"

"Can't believe how bad CNN has done in the latest ratings!"

"Happening Fast!" (in reference to market gains)

"Congratulations to Lauren Boebert on a great win!"

"I know better than anyone that my friend Roger Ailes died 3 years ago, and just look at what happened to Fox News! We miss you Roger!"

"at the request of many great Americans who live in the suburbs, I am studying the AFFH housing regulation"

"This is a battle to save the heritage, history, and greatness of our country!" (talking about Confederate monuments)

"As I watch the pandemic spread, I become more and more angry at China. People can see it, and I can feel it!"

This is just pure insanity.... and all of you people who support this guy will say "geez, why are you paying attention to what he says?".... "you shouldn't be listening to him"..... "you have too much time on your hands if you are reading his twitter feed".... etc... Just keep burying your head in the sand people.
i don't care about new cases. I care about deaths and hospital capacities.
These "idiot" governors are taking advice from health professionals and weighing that to the effects of shutting stuff down again.

deaths are still going down in florida
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Old 07-01-2020, 11:04 AM   #4929
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i don't care about new cases. I care about deaths and hospital capacities.
These "idiot" governors are taking advice from health professionals and weighing that to the effects of shutting stuff down again.

deaths are still going down in florida
also, by your own admission, nothing was ever really shut down. So it seems a bit hypocritical to ride governors for not closing things down again if they were never shut down in the first place
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Old 07-01-2020, 11:10 AM   #4930
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I'll add that i do think it is evident that masks need to be mandatory and we should take this serious.

But I honestly believe that things are not any worse now than they were when we first shut down. I think we missed a lot of people that were never tested back in March and April and that the true number of people that have had the virus are pretty consistant. Basically, the numbers now are pretty realistic and the numbers in March/April were undercounted
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Old 07-01-2020, 11:29 AM   #4931
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i don't care about new cases.
Then I guess there is nothing to discuss... If you don't care about the virus spreading, not sure there is much else to say.

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also, by your own admission, nothing was ever really shut down. So it seems a bit hypocritical to ride governors for not closing things down again if they were never shut down in the first place
They downplayed it.

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And Florida (until this week) has not been reporting on hospitalizations related to Covid. We will see what's going on when those numbers come out. In Miami-Dade, over 1200 people are on the hospital for Covid-19, which is more than at any point.
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Old 07-01-2020, 11:35 AM   #4932
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Then I guess there is nothing to discuss... If you don't care about the virus spreading, not sure there is much else to say.



They downplayed it.



And Florida (until this week) has not been reporting on hospitalizations related to Covid. We will see what's going on when those numbers come out. In Miami-Dade, over 1200 people are on the hospital for Covid-19, which is more than at any point.
Texas set a new record for Covid-19 hospitalizations every day for 2 straight weeks until Sunday and then set a new record on Monday.
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Old 07-01-2020, 11:40 AM   #4933
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Then I guess there is nothing to discuss... If you don't care about the virus spreading, not sure there is much else to say.



They downplayed it.



And Florida (until this week) has not been reporting on hospitalizations related to Covid. We will see what's going on when those numbers come out. In Miami-Dade, over 1200 people are on the hospital for Covid-19, which is more than at any point.
I mean, I care that it is spreading. But at some point, you have to live with it if the deaths are not increasing. It is going to be a part of life.
Again, I'd like to go back and revisit the original goal of the lock downs....flattening the curve long enough for hospitals to get ready. That has been accomplished. People want to rewrite history and that is what I have a problem with. People are quick to criticize when they will never be in the position making the choices with more data available than you and I have behind a computer screen. Do you guys really think republicans want people to die and hte virus to spread?

People need to be smarter. Masks need to be in place. Large gatherings should still be limited.

But it is time to ride the wave
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Old 07-01-2020, 11:46 AM   #4934
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Texas set a new record for Covid-19 hospitalizations every day for 2 straight weeks until Sunday and then set a new record on Monday.
And last I checked, they still had plenty of room for surges.

To put it in perspective...the new hospitlization in texas yesterday was 419 people. that comes out to .01 people per thousand. This is comparative to 58 people in Oklahoma. It is alarming that this is being seen every day.

Total in the hospital is 5900. Yes this sounds high, but I have no idea how many is normal and what hte capacity is. The 5900 is equivelent to about 815 in oklahoma...so quite a bit more.

We should definitely be taking more precautions so we can limit it as much as possible.
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:33 PM   #4935
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well I sure am glad I can just disregard all these stories of worry from Houston doctors since we have you experts in epidemiology here.

https://www.propublica.org/article/i...us-cases-surge
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I don't know if this has been posted. It's a link to a map that allows you to see the level of COVID-19 in your county.

https://globalepidemics.org/key-metr...d-suppression/
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Old 07-01-2020, 01:33 PM   #4937
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I don't know if this has been posted. It's a link to a map that allows you to see the level of COVID-19 in your county.

https://globalepidemics.org/key-metr...d-suppression/

There's also a site, at least for Oklahoma, which shows the data in each zip code.
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Old 07-01-2020, 01:40 PM   #4938
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well I sure am glad I can just disregard all these stories of worry from Houston doctors since we have you experts in epidemiology here.

https://www.propublica.org/article/i...us-cases-surge
Nothing really in there that disputes anything we've said

CAses are increasing.
Hospitals beds are increasing but not at capacity
Something needs to happen to slow it down.
Deaths, thankfully, are not increasing*

*Yes, we know it is a matter of time before deaths do start to increase
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I heard there was a couple of taco stands which temporarily closed down in California because customers who did not want to wear masks were verbally assaulting the employees who were simply following the rules about wearing them when you walk up to them to order their food. Just when I thought we couldnít possibly get more mentally weaker as a country, a bunch of people somehow lower the bar even more.

Here is a real simple concept that anyone with a brain can follow. If the place you are visiting requires face masks, either wear them or find someplace that doesnít. There is no need to harass the employees who are simply following the rules laid out by their superiors. Will someone explain to me why this is such a hard concept for some to grasp?
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I heard there was a couple of taco stands which temporarily closed down in California because customers who did not want to wear masks were verbally assaulting the employees who were simply following the rules about wearing them when you walk up to them to order their food. Just when I thought we couldnít possibly get more mentally weaker as a country, a bunch of people somehow lower the bar even more.

Here is a real simple concept that anyone with a brain can follow. If the place you are visiting requires face masks, either wear them or find someplace that doesnít. There is no need to harass the employees who are simply following the rules laid out by their superiors. Will someone explain to me why this is such a hard concept for some to grasp?
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Old 07-01-2020, 02:08 PM   #4941
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37+ states are spiking again right now. the more we fight and keep sending mixed messages about social distancing and masks, the longer this will continue. at least the medical field is learning how to treat it - but it's a hard lesson and only a pyrrhic victory.
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California is closing again.

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I heard there was a couple of taco stands which temporarily closed down in California because customers who did not want to wear masks were verbally assaulting the employees who were simply following the rules about wearing them when you walk up to them to order their food. Just when I thought we couldnít possibly get more mentally weaker as a country, a bunch of people somehow lower the bar even more.

Here is a real simple concept that anyone with a brain can follow. If the place you are visiting requires face masks, either wear them or find someplace that doesnít. There is no need to harass the employees who are simply following the rules laid out by their superiors. Will someone explain to me why this is such a hard concept for some to grasp?
I was getting a haircut and the girl who cuts my hair said they have been regularly berated by people for requiring a mask... People saying they are communists, taking their freedom away, losing loyal customers, etc.

I think people need to be reminded of real sacrifices that previous generations of Americans have made, and decide if they want to look like complete morons fighting a mask... All sorts of things have been rationed during WW1, WW2, etc. People did it for their country. Nobody cares about that anymore. They only care about themselves.
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I was getting a haircut and the girl who cuts my hair said they have been regularly berated by people for requiring a mask... People saying they are communists, taking their freedom away, losing loyal customers, etc.

I think people need to be reminded of real sacrifices that previous generations of Americans have made, and decide if they want to look like complete morons fighting a mask... All sorts of things have been rationed during WW1, WW2, etc. People did it for their country. Nobody cares about that anymore. They only care about themselves.
They only care about themselves until someone they know dies from it
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It's called reopening.
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It's called reopening.
Some people are literally salivating over the possibility of a rising death count so they can play the "I told you so" song. Enough said.
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still trying to figure out when flattening the curve turned into no curve
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For the record, I canít understand why so many people have a problem wearing a mask. Itís crazy to me that some people are so angry about it. Just wear a damn mask, social distance, and wash your hands regularly. Good grief.

As for the spike in cases, we knew that would happen when we reopened. This was expected. Is the answer to this virus to close down the country forever? No, itís not. So, a spike was expected. No matter how long we waited, when we reopened, a spike was going to happen.

So, if we close down again, we may see the curve flatten. Then, weíll open back up and see a spike again. Over and over again. This virus isnít going away from us just closing everything. Itís not going away until we get a vaccine or an effective treatment to prevent the morbidity and mortality.
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Some people are literally salivating over the possibility of a rising death count so they can play the "I told you so" song. Enough said.
oh give it a rest. I have friends and family among the sufferers. of course I am going to point out that it is NOT a hoax like so many of you wish to articulate. dont try to play both sides of the fence. if you claim it's overblown then stand by for chatter when you're empirically proven wrong.
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oh give it a rest. I have friends and family among the sufferers. of course I am going to point out that it is NOT a hoax like so many of you wish to articulate. dont try to play both sides of the fence. if you claim it's overblown then stand by for chatter when you're empirically proven wrong.
Nobody here thinks itís a hoax

Overblown is an opinion. Iíd like to see your proof it is overblown as it will all be subjective
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