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Old 02-11-2018, 11:20 AM   #1
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Default Question for the board: Are refs allowing TY now to get fouled.....

More?? I have noticed that hand checking and bumping him literally everywhere he goes used to get called as a foul. Now they turn their heads. And then yesterday I listened to the radio wrap up and Toby commented on this.

Just seems that he is getting hacked constantly with no calls or even a hint of calls. I will admit that in the second half yesterday they finally started calling some of them but WHY NOT ALL GAME. Doesn’t make any sense and if they continue to allow this it is bad for OU but also sad for the college game.

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Old 02-11-2018, 11:48 AM   #2
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For the last several years officiating always seems to change once conference season starts

What was whistled in Nov/Dec isn’t in Jan/Feb
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Old 02-11-2018, 01:05 PM   #3
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Default Re: Question for the board: Are refs allowing TY now to get fouled.....

I have noticed the opposite of protection. An increase of offensive fouls on Trae while an increase of physicality guarding him. One example yesterday was the 3 point play possession Trae got the cut leg on, clearly bumped out at the top without a call. Easily seen again on the replay, never mentioned by the commentators.
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Old 02-11-2018, 01:31 PM   #4
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I agree with both of these comments. It is amazing how much hand checking and pushing he endures while the ball is in his hands and this was supposed to be a point of emphasis. In the NBA he will get almost all of these calls AND the calls where he drives to the basket and gets hacked and gets no call i college.

Very sad that the Big-12 officials have decided this can go on. Castiglione and Lon and Boren should be on the phone and hammer the Big-12 office about this. IMO
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Old 02-11-2018, 01:39 PM   #5
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One other question for the board. Almost every time Trae gets the ball after an inbound he looks like he takes a step BEFORE a dribble occurs. Sure looks like a walk each time, anyone else notice this. It just makes me nervous.
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Old 02-11-2018, 04:30 PM   #6
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One other question for the board. Almost every time Trae gets the ball after an inbound he looks like he takes a step BEFORE a dribble occurs. Sure looks like a walk each time, anyone else notice this. It just makes me nervous.
I’ve noticed it too and cringe whenever I see it. Traveling is quickly becoming a thing of the past. I just hope they don’t choose to call it late in a tight tourney game.
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Old 02-11-2018, 01:55 PM   #7
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The emphasis on arm bars and hand checking officials were calling early in the season went away at the start of conference play. It’s like that every year. Early on, a defensive player couldn’t breathe on the guy with the ball without getting a call. Clearly that is not the case anymore.

As for Trae, he is definitely getting more offensive fouls called on him and fewer on the defenders now. You can bet the opposing coaches have been working the officials, telling them to keep an eye on Trae’s off arm to keep the defensive player at bay. That call can probably be made if you’re looking for it. But that in no way justifies the physical play TY is receiving from defenders now. He’s still getting calls, they’re just not as consistent as before.
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Old 02-11-2018, 02:18 PM   #8
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The emphasis on arm bars and hand checking officials were calling early in the season went away at the start of conference play. It’s like that every year. Early on, a defensive player couldn’t breathe on the guy with the ball without getting a call. Clearly that is not the case anymore.

As for Trae, he is definitely getting more offensive fouls called on him and fewer on the defenders now. You can bet the opposing coaches have been working the officials, telling them to keep an eye on Trae’s off arm to keep the defensive player at bay. That call can probably be made if you’re looking for it. But that in no way justifies the physical play TY is receiving from defenders now. He’s still getting calls, they’re just not as consistent as before.

Agreed, and hopefully Lon or somebody does their work on the phones to get some kind of balance back. in the NBA that will be called.
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Old 02-11-2018, 02:43 PM   #9
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I've never been the one to question refs and how they call a game, imo teams need to adjust to how it is being called. I rather see a game with few fouls called then one where 70 FT's are shot. IMO the OU games that I seen the refs have done a pretty good job. Now the NBA on the other hand to me it's more like a WWE ref
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:34 AM   #10
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Trae plays like an NBA guy and college officials don't know how to officiate him. I also feel that he has shown officials up this year at times and that gets around so officials aren't giving him any calls. Devonte Graham, Carter and this ISU pg were getting more calls than Young. I hate officiating. Hand check is called on one end it should be called on the other. The difference is Young is just showing it when it happens and tries to make a point to the officials.

He will be a better NBA player when it's all said and done.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:26 AM   #11
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Trae plays like an NBA guy and college officials don't know how to officiate him. I also feel that he has shown officials up this year at times and that gets around so officials aren't giving him any calls. Devonte Graham, Carter and this ISU pg were getting more calls than Young. I hate officiating. Hand check is called on one end it should be called on the other. The difference is Young is just showing it when it happens and tries to make a point to the officials.

He will be a better NBA player when it's all said and done.
the nba is much less physical on the outside than college basketball
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:51 AM   #12
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Not sure if the coaches are allowed to talk to the refs before the game starts, but if it is allowed he should mention something to the refs. He should tell the refs that during the game Trae is going to drive past the defender and then stop, which will likely cause the defender to bump into Trae from behind and ask the crew if that's going to be called a foul. Surely the refs will just stare at him. Lon should then exclaim "do we need to forfeit the game now" and promptly walk away.
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:27 PM   #13
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Not sure if the coaches are allowed to talk to the refs before the game starts, but if it is allowed he should mention something to the refs. He should tell the refs that during the game Trae is going to drive past the defender and then stop, which will likely cause the defender to bump into Trae from behind and ask the crew if that's going to be called a foul. Surely the refs will just stare at him. Lon should then exclaim "do we need to forfeit the game now" and promptly walk away.
I hope Lon doesn't try that
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:45 PM   #14
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I hope Lon doesn't try that
If you believe in something you take a stand. To some we're getting railroaded when a smallish player with skill is able to outmaneuver defensive players with less quickness only to be bullied around like a pinball fresh out of the shoot. It tends to equalize much of his game. A fair shake is deserved.
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Not sure if the coaches are allowed to talk to the refs before the game starts, but if it is allowed he should mention something to the refs. He should tell the refs that during the game Trae is going to drive past the defender and then stop, which will likely cause the defender to bump into Trae from behind and ask the crew if that's going to be called a foul. Surely the refs will just stare at him. Lon should then exclaim "do we need to forfeit the game now" and promptly walk away.
And the opposing coach will counter that Trae commits offensive fouls on virtually every possession.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:23 PM   #16
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And the opposing coach will counter that Trae commits offensive fouls on virtually every possession.
Do you believe that is an accurate assessment of Trae's game?
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