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sybarite 11-29-2019 09:18 AM

Sam Houston State
 
Schedule:
http://www.gobearkats.com/SportSelec...59&SPSID=93028

Roster:
http://www.gobearkats.com/SportSelec...59&SPSID=93026

Stats:
http://stats.ncaa.org/team/624/stats/15002

sybarite 12-12-2019 10:33 AM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Starters:

6-2 Sr C Kiera McKinney 6.86 pts, 7.57 reb
5-11 Soph F Amber Leggett 13.14 pts, 6.43 reb
5-11 Jr F Courtney Cleveland 6.14 4.43 reb
5-7 Sr G Jaylonn Walker 9.86 pts,
5-5 Sr G Jennifer Oramas 12.0 pts, 4.71 reb, 31 assists

Reserves:
5-10 Sr F La'Sha Haynes 5.57 pts,6.29 reb
5-9 Sr G Rachel Harrell 9.14 pts, 3.14 reb
5-3 Sr G Faith Cook 6.86 pts, 19 assists

sybarite 12-12-2019 09:41 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Sam Houston is 4-3, losing three on the road, winning three at home. Texas Tech and Oral Roberts clobbered them. Ole Miss barely beat them. They did win one on the road, UTSan Antonio.

They have outscored their opponents: 75.71--69.00. They have been outrebounded: 38.71--39.43. Not a big team.

They shoot better (FG%) than their opponents: 41.47----39.13

Three point %: 34.31--27.38

Turnovers: 158 to opponents 174.

This should be an easy win. They are guard-strong. It will be interesting to see how ready Liz is to play. Has she been practicing? Conditioning and edge may take some time.

sybarite 12-13-2019 08:05 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
I am looking forward more to this game than for the typical easy opponent type game. LSU should have shown us what we can do. We did that against UConn last year, for 3 1/2 quarters. We can play well.

A real key is whether the version of Mandy that we saw against LSU becomes a regular contributor. She was so much different from what I had seen. She was quicker, more aggressive, less inclined to let someone take a rebound out of her hands, less fearful of someone blocking her shot, and had better hands than I had seen. If this Mandy continues to show up, we may well be at least adequate on the interior. She only made one bad pass that I saw.

I am hopeful of Liz's ability to step in and make a contribution. I don't know if she is as quick as Madi, but she is just as strong and slightly taller. Seems to be more offensive oriented than Madi is naturally.

We are beginning to see what Gabbi can do. Her impact seems to be from the three-point line to under the basket. Now, if she will stop running over people.

We may have the pieces necessary to challenge for at least #2 in the Big Twelve. I'm anxious to polish them against SHS.

sybarite 12-15-2019 01:57 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
This game is on my cable, but at 6:00 PM. I'll watch it then. But, for now, I'm on the radio.

It looks like Gabby is starting over Madi again today. Haynes over Cleveland for SHS.

#7 Louisville 67
#14 Kentucky 66 Final

Houston Baptist 51
Texas Tech 59 Final

A key to the game: don't let them define the pace. They love turnovers. SHS turns it over 22,6 times per game. But, they force 24.86 turnovers per game. Since they slightly lose rebound battles, they like to run to get shots.

sybarite 12-15-2019 02:27 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
2-8 6:25 Ana with a three and a two. Mandy with a FT. Taylor with a layup.
2-10 Tatum 5:59
4-10 FTs on foul by Ana
4-12 Madi 4:57
Media time out 4:54

6-12 FTs after Lampkin foul
8-12
8-14 Lampkin
10-14
10-16 Williams
14-19 Tayloor FT
14-21 FT Gregory
16-21
18-21 end of quarter

sybarite 12-15-2019 02:36 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
20-21 turnover by Tatum
23-21 we can't hit a shot
23-24 Taylor
6:40 media timeout
They are hitting 50%. We are at 37%.

23-26 Ana
23-28 Madi
23-39 Ana
23-31 one of two FTs by Taylor
23-33 Ana
25-33 3:42
25-34 FT Ana
25-36 Tatum for two
25-38 Mandy
25-39 Mandy one of two FTs
25-41 Madi
27-41
27-43 two FTs by Taylor 0:15
29-43 two FTs after Madi foul
29-46 Taylor was fouled at the buzzer while shooting. They put 0.7 seconds back on clock.

Soonerguy06 12-15-2019 02:50 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
so it's a much closer game than I expected, although I'm not incredibly surprised either with how we have been so far this year. Up by 13 with less than two minutes to go in the first half but it feels much closer. We haven't been turning it over as much but it seems like our offense could be much better. Getting a lot of points off of their turnovers it seems..
No sign of Scott yet. when did Simpson become such a horrible free throw shooter? I seem to remember her being a decent free throw shooter last year.

sybarite 12-15-2019 03:08 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Stats at halftime
turnovers: SHS 17-OU 8
fouls: SHS 16 OU 7
Rebounds: SHS 17 OU 18
FG% SHS 42.3 OU 48.5
three point: SHS 1 of 6 OU 2 of 6 (Ana and Taylor)

Scoring: Ana 12, Taylor 11, Madi 10

Wright State 71
Iowa State 79 Final Ashley Joens had 41 She is good.

sybarite 12-15-2019 03:12 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Houston 43
Texas A&M 72

Houston not good away from home. I was more than a little surprised that the Big Twelve won 8 of 10 over the SEC in the challenge.

sybarite 12-15-2019 03:26 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
We have not seen our tall players: Bloom, Williston, and Scott.

29-49 Gregory with an old-fashioned three
31-49
31-52 Taylor for three
33-52
33-55 Tayllor for three
7:00 SHStime out
33-58 Ana for three
35-58 Leggett (Taylor fouled) missed FT
35=60 Murcer for two missed FT
36-60 FT on Murcer foul
4:52 media timeout
36-62 Madi hits both FTs after time out
38-62
40-62
40-65 Murcer for three
43-65
43-67 Lampkin , fouled but missed FT
43-68 FT by BLOOM
45-68
47=68
47-70
47-72 Ana FT
47-74 Madi
49-74 FTs on foul by BLOOM
Ana misses two FTs at end of quarter

MsProudSooner 12-15-2019 03:29 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Time out to wish Ana Llanusa good luck in her goal to become a Civil Rights attorney. One of the things I love about women's athletics in all sports is that they take their academics seriously.

MsProudSooner 12-15-2019 03:40 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
What was the injury that kept Bloom out until now?

sybarite 12-15-2019 04:10 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
SHS has 27 fouls and 21 turnovers

49-76 SCOTT 9:48
9:30 foul on SCOTT, two fouls on SCOTT
50-76 FT after Ana foul
50-78 SCOTT 9:02
50-81 Taylor for three

turnover SCOTT
foul SCOTT
foul SCOTT
52-81 FTs
52-83 Madi
55-83
55-85 Gregory
55-87 Murcer
57-87
5:26 SHS timeout
57-89 Gregory FTs
60-89 old fashioned three
60-91 FTs by Gregory
60-93 Murcer FTs
62-93
64-93 FTs after Aspen foul
2:03 OU time out
66-93 FTs off Lampkin foul
66-95 Tatum
68-95
Tatum misses two FTs
71-95 FINAL

OU had 5 turnovers in the last 4:01 with the kids in the game. Total of 18. SHS has 26 and 33 fouls. OU won rebound 43-36

sybarite 12-15-2019 04:12 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
I don't know that Bloom is injured. Just needs to learn. They indicate that Scott has a huge brace.

sybarite 12-15-2019 04:21 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
UAB 86
Alcorn State 65

Western Kentucky 88
Samform 84

Prairie View A&M 55
Rice 77

LSU Shreveport 32
Stephen F. Austin 75

Ohio 72
TCU 79

St. Mary's 81
Kansas 86

Houston Baptist 51
Texas Tech 59

Soonerguy06 12-15-2019 04:25 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Scott did wear a huge brace, however she was not limping or showing any sign of her injury affecting her. She has got some mad skills with the ball! She is legit! I'm excited to see how she develops throughout the season. Praying to God she, as well as everyone else of course, can stay healthy and improve.

OUALUMinTX 12-15-2019 04:30 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Another good win. It is nice that everyone got a chance to play in the game. Our players really need to practice FTs more, though. 68% for the season. That is a lot of points that we are missing out on.

atlantasooner 12-15-2019 04:38 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Wins are good. Big wins are good.
Scott getting some game action before January is even better.
Is Tatum getting better at PG with increased minutes??

OUALUMinTX 12-15-2019 04:47 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
If 6 points on 3/7 shooting, 0-2 FTs, 5 TOs and 6 steals in 29 minutes is good. Wouldnít surprise me if Murcer got a shot next game to start since it looks like she did pretty well with the minutes she got by the stats.

Oliver Hardy 12-15-2019 05:08 PM

Jessie was basically terrible at first but redeemed herself a bit the longer she played. She isnít the passer and distributor that T.V. is. Perhaps that can change. We need a point guard.


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OUALUMinTX 12-15-2019 05:35 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Sounds like they were pleased with Tatumís performance. I didnít get to see the game so the stats may be deceiving.

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double-double and an all-around performance by @tatumballin4_ lead OU past Sam Houston State 95-71.

SoonerinNC 12-15-2019 11:18 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Actually I think Jessi is a better internal distributer than Tatum. I have never figured the assist thing. You toss the ball wide open player for a trey and you get an assist but an internal pass that is not right under the basket even when it results in a clear path to an easy basket is not one.

At the end of the season Jessi was running up big assist numbers. Too many turnovers but no more than most of the starters. Still you should get less turnovers from your point guard.

I actually missed Scott because I had the sound down. She looked enough like Williston that I thought it was Williston who I wondered where did she get that quickness. After I watched her prospect films I thought she was a smaller ViVi but more athletic. She could help us a lot inside if she can shed the rust in time.

soonermike22 12-16-2019 09:24 AM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
I agree that Jessi makes some good passes and also she is a better scorer. We need both this year, and we need both to improve. Too many of our TO's were poor choices to even make the pass, not poorly thrown passes.
Both Scott and Bloom show promise, with Scott much closer to being able to help. Scott looked good, but rusty and overeager-4 fouls in a few minutes of PT

soonerstar 12-16-2019 11:39 AM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Would like to see a starting lineup of Murcer, Llanusa, Williams, Robertson, and Lampkin. With Gregory getting lots of minutes ans hopefully Scott when she rounds into shape.

sybarite 12-16-2019 11:45 AM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
When we force shot clock violations, we usually have Mandy, Madi, Ana, Taylor, and Tatum on the court. Gabby learning. Jessi breaks down. Lampkin hasn't got defense yet.

Soonerguy06 12-16-2019 12:43 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
I think TV is doing a pretty good job of running the point, the last two games anyway. If only she had Murcer's offencive game, or vice versa we would have a steady point guard on our hands! when I saw she was rated the #23 overall player by prospect Nation I anticipated a Gabby Ortiz type of player, if not a little better at passing, which TV most definitely is. Unfortunately I've been disappointed thus far with her offensive game. This goes to show that ESPN hoopgurlz is a more reliable rating system IMO. very excited to see how Scott develops. Not quite sure if she's all of the 6'2" she's listed at, maybe an inch shorter, but that girl's got some mad game and barring injury, I imagine her only getting better! She might be exactly what we need down low. I think we will see where we really are right now when we play Drake. if we have any hope of making the NCAA tournament this year we have got to win that game!

SoonerSpock 12-16-2019 01:48 PM

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I really don't know that one can really determine which recruiting service is best over all Hoopgurlz or Prospect Nation. As you indicated Prospect Nation had Tatum rated far higher than her potential ceiling. Conversely Hoopgurlz had Madi Williams ranked as the #4 wing and #24 player overall and that too was a big miss. Although far from as big as the miss on Tatum. Which I think in part comes from where Tatum played high school ball which was the lowest class in Texas. She played against quality competition in only limited AAU action but virtually against no quality in high school. Perhaps averaging 25+ p/g, 6 assist and 7 steals her last two season at Windthorst distorted her potential for Prospect Nation.

I think Hoopgurlz had TV ranked around #250 nationally.

sybarite 12-16-2019 05:41 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Ordinarily, you might think that someone who was #23 in the Big Twelve in scoring and #9 in the Big Twelve in rebounding as a freshman was pretty good.

Mac 12-16-2019 08:16 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
I think Madi is doing a good job, being asked to play out of position, and sheís a great rebounder for her size... if you look at the 4 wings ranked above her, it seems like a weak position over all for the 2018 class....

Tatum, is a bit overrated, and she didnít face good talent in high school, but I do remember seeing her play good defense, even tho sheís not a scorer, at times she does play decent defense...

sybarite 12-17-2019 10:19 AM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
FSN-OK 7:00 Uverse 751 in DFW

Men are on FS-2, 7:30, 652 in DFW

SoonerSpock 12-17-2019 11:22 AM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sybarite (Post 638682)
Ordinarily, you might think that someone who was #23 in the Big Twelve in scoring and #9 in the Big Twelve in rebounding as a freshman was pretty good.

Pretty good yes. I good get for OU absolutely. Top 4 wing in the country good 1/3 the way into her sophomore season? Absolutely not. Not even close. But then where do you point the finger with regard to her development or absence thereof? I don't have the answer. Do you?

scrybe 12-17-2019 01:00 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sybarite (Post 638702)
FSN-OK 7:00 Uverse 751 in DFW

Men are on FS-2, 7:30, 652 in DFW

Actually, the guys are on FS1.

For those who are Directv subscribers, that's channel 219.

Sweetest OU Girl 12-17-2019 02:59 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soonerstar (Post 638668)
Would like to see a starting lineup of Murcer, Llanusa, Williams, Robertson, and Lampkin. With Gregory getting lots of minutes ans hopefully Scott when she rounds into shape.

Don't expect it.

Trivia question:

What does current OU WBB have in common with the last few years of Texas Football under coach D. Royal?

inoref 12-17-2019 03:22 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
both were under achievers, both still are

sooner8693 12-17-2019 04:03 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweetest OU Girl (Post 638715)
Don't expect it.

Trivia question:

What does current OU WBB have in common with the last few years of Texas Football under coach D. Royal?

Both have head coaches that are past their prime and no signs of returning to where their programs have been. Living off of the past accomplishments.

soonerstar 12-17-2019 04:52 PM

Re: Sam Houston State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sooner8693 (Post 638719)
Both have head coaches that are past their prime and no signs of returning to where their programs have been. Living off of the past accomplishments.

You answered that trivia question correctly.


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