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rickjames 03-13-2019 09:50 PM

Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
Heís a nice guy though. Letís give him an extension and a raise, Joe.

hoopsaustin 03-13-2019 09:50 PM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
Not good enough. Thank you, next

SoonerTraveler 03-13-2019 10:15 PM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
Thankfully, it is not a double-elimination tournament.

(Sorry. At this point all I got is a poor attempt at gallows humor.)

MrAnderson 03-13-2019 10:35 PM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
Dont forget worst big 12 record over the last 3 years too. But I'm sure next year will be different...

Soonerinkc 03-13-2019 10:38 PM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by rickjames (Post 625609)
Heís a nice guy though. Letís give him an extension and a raise, Joe.

Joe was too busy mucking it up with Toby to watch much of the game...he'll take Lon's word that they played hard.

kansasooner 03-13-2019 11:11 PM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
Time to go.

BCSooners 03-14-2019 12:24 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by kansasooner (Post 625656)
Time to go.

So Bob Huggins & countless other great coaches need to leave too? You realize OU is making the tournament with a roster that most thought wouldnít right?

oudna 03-14-2019 01:09 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
Yeah, it’s more than coincidence

Conference tourney not his thing. Conference coaches know him too well?

MrAnderson 03-14-2019 01:14 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by oudna (Post 625659)
Yeah, itís more than coincidence

Conference tourney not his thing. Conference coaches know him too well?

He just isnt a great coach and his teams get worse as the season progresses.

BoulderSooner 03-14-2019 04:05 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by MrAnderson (Post 625660)
He just isnt a great coach and his teams get worse as the season progresses.

nope

WTSooner 03-14-2019 05:56 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by MrAnderson (Post 625660)
He just isnt a great coach and his teams get worse as the season progresses.

yep

thebigabd 03-14-2019 06:04 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
I know Lon is responsible... But it's still a recruiting problem... So many guys in the rotation or riding pine that just can't play or push the starters.

They had to play Reynolds for 20 minutes last night and he is completely ineffective.

It's a very pathetic recruiting job the past few years filling holes on the team with legitimate players... You guys know my stance on it, but damn it was on display tonight.

BoulderSooner 03-14-2019 06:43 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by thebigabd (Post 625669)
I know Lon is responsible... But it's still a recruiting problem... So many guys in the rotation or riding pine that just can't play or push the starters.

They had to play Reynolds for 20 minutes last night and he is completely ineffective.

It's a very pathetic recruiting job the past few years filling holes on the team with legitimate players... You guys know my stance on it, but damn it was on display tonight.

next year will be the most talented roster OU has had under Lon

Speedy17 03-14-2019 07:13 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by BCSooners (Post 625658)
So Bob Huggins & countless other great coaches need to leave too? You realize OU is making the tournament with a roster that most thought wouldnít right?

Not so fast, OU is not in the tournament yet. They may have played themselves out of the tournament.

Speedy17 03-14-2019 07:14 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thebigabd (Post 625669)
I know Lon is responsible... But it's still a recruiting problem... So many guys in the rotation or riding pine that just can't play or push the starters.

They had to play Reynolds for 20 minutes last night and he is completely ineffective.

It's a very pathetic recruiting job the past few years filling holes on the team with legitimate players... You guys know my stance on it, but damn it was on display tonight.

Why did they have to play Reynolds 20 minutes and Calixe 14 minutes down the stretch? All while sitting the starters. That was the coaches choice last night.

BoulderSooner 03-14-2019 07:24 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by Speedy17 (Post 625679)
Not so fast, OU is not in the tournament yet. They may have played themselves out of the tournament.

would you like to bet?

WichitaSooner 03-14-2019 07:25 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by MrAnderson (Post 625660)
He just isnt a great coach and his teams get worse as the season progresses.

Especially if you focus on a two-year sample size in a 35-year career.

SoonerTraveler 03-14-2019 08:04 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
Over an 8-year career at Oklahoma, Lon is 72-72 in conference games, and 2-8 in conference tournament games. That is mediocre. That is not the record of a great coach by Oklahoma standards (or any standards for that matter).

thebigabd 03-14-2019 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SoonerTraveler (Post 625690)
Over an 8-year career at Oklahoma, Lon is 72-72 in conference games, and 2-8 in conference tournament games. That is mediocre. That is not the record of a great coach by Oklahoma standards (or any standards for that matter).

You just can't argue that. He, like Capel before him, has not embraced what makes OU good. He hasn't recruited well enough top to bottom.

Soonerinkc 03-14-2019 08:10 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by Speedy17 (Post 625680)
Why did they have to play Reynolds 20 minutes and Calixe 14 minutes down the stretch? All while sitting the starters. That was the coaches choice last night.

I think match up...needed more of an outside threat than odomes.

Just my guess...and when odomes drives he isnt dishing it off..

WTSooner 03-14-2019 08:11 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by thebigabd (Post 625691)
You just can't argue that. He, like Capel before him, has not embraced what makes OU good. He hasn't recruited well enough top to bottom.

And he hasn't put together teams, for the most part, that are tough. OU isn't going to have the talent to just stick guys out there and have them win at a high level. MOST of the time. We need toughness. We need a coach that influences the game every minute.

stormspencer 03-14-2019 08:14 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoonerTraveler (Post 625690)
Over an 8-year career at Oklahoma, Lon is 72-72 in conference games, and 2-8 in conference tournament games. That is mediocre. That is not the record of a great coach by Oklahoma standards (or any standards for that matter).

Yep. I like Lon, but over the last 3 years, I have really soured on the guy. He had a nice run in 15 and 16, but other than those two years.....we are a mediocre program under his direction. Outside of two seasons, his teams have stunk in the postseason.

Since we've all been told by several on this board that the influx of talent next year is going to make this a better team......then there had better damn well be some results. If we find ourselves in this same position next year (barely making the tournament/bubble team), then a change will be needed. No coach is bigger than the good of the program.

SoonerTraveler 03-14-2019 08:15 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by Speedy17 (Post 625680)
Why did they have to play Reynolds 20 minutes and Calixe 14 minutes down the stretch? All while sitting the starters. That was the coaches choice last night.

Who knows. Maybe Lon was looking at the big picture .. trying to make sure his starters are well rested for the upcoming NCAA Tournament.

sperry 03-14-2019 08:32 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
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Originally Posted by stormspencer (Post 625695)
Yep. I like Lon, but over the last 3 years, I have really soured on the guy. He had a nice run in 15 and 16, but other than those two years.....we are a mediocre program under his direction. Outside of two seasons, his teams have stunk in the postseason.

Since we've all been told by several on this board that the influx of talent next year is going to make this a better team......then there had better damn well be some results. If we find ourselves in this same position next year (barely making the tournament/bubble team), then a change will be needed. No coach is bigger than the good of the program.

My thing is that he turns 67 this year. That's pretty much time to hang up the spurs anyway. Go get your next coach, rather than let Lon hang around too long. It's not like he's some Bobby Bowden or Bill Snyder that has earned the right to coach as long as he wants to.

hoopsaustin 03-14-2019 09:04 AM

Re: Lon is 2-8 all time in the Big 12 Tourney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoonerTraveler (Post 625696)
Who knows. Maybe Lon was looking at the big picture .. trying to make sure his starters are well rested for the upcoming NCAA Tournament.

Lolol


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